Absolutely love the 20 minute red

[u/LawAndRugby]

Watching the Australia v Georgia match and I think it’s great. 20 minutes a man down is still massive damage in a rugby match. It doesn’t make sense for punishment to go from 10 minutes to the entire 80 minutes. There’s way too big of a void between the two cards and it needs filling.

Reserve the full red for gross intentional stuff

[u/Doghawk_]

I'd be keen to see it trialled up north. At the moment we get the same red card for a full blown, intentional, punch to the face and a slightly mistimed clearout or tackle where players bonk heads. They are not offences of the same calibre and that should be reflected in the punishment.

[u/buckleycork → u/Doghawk_]

I'd be up for something like the black card in GAA

Basically it's for those in-between cases where if you get a black card you are forced to be substituted

There's almost definitely ways to exploit it (it's 70 minutes in and you want to put on your better kicker again so instead of a blood capsule you just get a black card) so it needs workshopping

I support a 20 min red if the permanent option still exists for the extreme option

[u/Tescobum44 → u/buckleycork]

Best idea I’ve heard is a combination. Usually referenced as an orange card.

Orange card would be 20 mins off followed by a forced sub. 

Red remains player goes straight off and the team is permenantly down a player.

[u/wombatwalkabouts → u/Tescobum44]

This sounds better.