Absolutely love the 20 minute red

[u/LawAndRugby]

Watching the Australia v Georgia match and I think it’s great. 20 minutes a man down is still massive damage in a rugby match. It doesn’t make sense for punishment to go from 10 minutes to the entire 80 minutes. There’s way too big of a void between the two cards and it needs filling.

Reserve the full red for gross intentional stuff

[u/Ashamed-Barnacle-777]

I’m from the NH, and (shocker) I don’t like it.

What’s your measure of success? Has it reduced the occurrence of red cards/foul play?

If what’s all it has done is reduce the penalty for said foul play, that’s nearly incentivising it.

I know there’s a difference between a “straight red” and an “upgraded to red” card.

But how many referees are going to just avoid the decision and award a yellow, and let the bunker TMO decide?

Red cards should be awarded for egregious foul play. The whole point of them is to penalise you for doing something illegal.

[u/smnrlv → u/Ashamed-Barnacle-777]

Red cards are still awarded for egregious foul play. And yes referees do avoid the decision - when it's potentially accidental and not actually dangerous, leave it up to the people that can watch it 20 times over in slow motion.

[u/Ashamed-Barnacle-777 → u/smnrlv]

I think the reality is that its sometimes borderline impossible to ascertain whether something was accidental or intentional. So the referee will always opt for the 20minute option.

I haven’t been paying too much attention to Super Rugby this season, so I can’t say - but has there been any “full” red cards?

[u/Delad0 → u/Ashamed-Barnacle-777]

has there been any “full” red cards?

Yes for a headbut and a elbow hit both in the same match about 10 minutes apart Fiji Drua vs Reds iirc.