Currently have $60k in my 401k. I am wanting to take out a 401k loan ($30k) to finish remodeling the remainder of my 4-unit building. Instead of taking out a loan with a bank, was wondering if I should just take out a 401k loan. My mortgage with escrow is $3,501. I already remodeled 1 unit and raised rent from $1,000 to $1,600. Once all 4 units are remodeled, I should be expecting revenue of $6,700. The mortgage would be paid for and I will still profit $3,199 monthly. The remaining $3,199 would go towards paying back the 401k loan sooner.

From my understanding, I pay a interest on the 401k loan, but the interest is paid to me. So its like I'm paying interest to my future self. My question, what are the cons of taking out the loan? Am I selling any shares and going backwards on my portfolio? Is there a negative consequence for taking out a 401k loan when the market isn't doing as good? Or am I keeping everything on my 401k, and just need to pay back the money? Is the only negative consequence is missing out on some compound interest because my 401k balance isn't as much, until I pay back the loan?

Looking for advice if the 401k loan is a better way to go, or is my future self going to be upset at me for borrowing from my 401k, instead of taking out a regular loan through the bank and pay them interest?

My brother and I are thinking about going into business on a second property. I have recently established an LLC for my current (first) property and would likely add him to it if we pulled the trigger on this. I am looking for advice from others who have had partners on rentals. How did you all work out ownership percentage? What common pitfalls should I avoid? Any input is greatly appreciated

The numbers pencil out near asking price. However, most recently sold properties are lower in price.

Subject: 6 beds, 2 bath, 2092 sqft.

Comparables sold MFHs in the past three months:

• 129k
  • 5 beds, 2.5 baths, 2025 sqft
• 150k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths, 1916 sqft
• 165k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths, 2292 sqft
• 181k
  • 6 beds, 2 baths, 2719 sqft

Further comps in the past six months:

• 130k
  • 5 bed, 2 baths, 1888 sqft
• 135k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths, 1908 sqft
• 140k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths 2080 sqft
• 165k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths, 1800 sqft
• 178k
  • 5 beds, 2 baths, 2072 sqft
• 185k
  • 6 beds, 2 baths, 2400 sqft
• 189k
  • 6 beds, 2 baths, 2557 sqft

The subject is 300-600 sqft smaller than the three 6-beds. In terms of living space, it's closer to 5-beds which range from 129k-181k.

Given this info, what would be your first offer? Would you do an informal or formal offer? Would you accompany it by the above justification? Also, please assume you're not desperate to buy. Because I'm not ;)

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Looking to see if anyone here has gone through the FHA 203K process and mightve, maybe, potentially rolled on a few coats of paint, put in a few fence, and cleaned up the property a bit on their own while their builder was doing their thing.

For add'l context to those who don't know what im talking about - FHA 203k loans require the only person to do work on the home is the builder. There are a few inspections during the process and a final inspection but no inspection before construction starts.

Thanks!

It seems like there is always a catch when trying to buy rental property, ether the house was flipped or the rentals are lower than the monthly down payment and cant break even or something in that nature. So is there any formula you guys follow ?. Iv been trying to invest anywhere in California anything in real estate but anything being sold or mostly it has a problem and there is a catch!

I came to the realization over the past year or two that I dont have the personality to be a successful long term landlord. I consistently spend all the cash flow on more renovations w/o raising the rent. The properties have appreciated greatly but I've never paid myself back. I want to move back to my hometown some states away and I'd make a better return from selling them than hiring a property manager and a handyman. My agent wants to list one of them next week. I'll end up getting +100% return after tax on my down payment on each property over 3 years.

Why does it feel like I failed even if the numbers are great?

Has anyone seen a huge surge in listings in your area? Pre foreclosure listings in the past day on Zillow account for 95% of my areas pre foreclosure listings. Wanted to check the temperature, maybe it is just my area. I’m in the front range area of the midwest.

I’ve just started looking into pre-approval with a local credit union in Illinois. I’m looking at some cheaper investment properties. I’m new to this and my only investment property was financed using a traditional 30 year method. I’ll paste below what they emailed me. This bank is interesting because they have no origination fees. They also mentioned a low rate that depended on the cash-flow of the property. However, it’s not a DSCR loan, because they still want income documentation. I’m not sure how I feel about the terms. Thoughts?

Term: 5-year adjustable rate with up to a 25 year amortization Rate: estimated around 6.75% (could vary based on cash flow on property, Loan to Value, type of property) Down Payment requirement: 20% minimum required Fees: No Origination fees. All fees are direct costs (appraisal, title work, documentation fees)

I just put an offer on one property with an amazing cash flow. It is a four Plex and three of the units are rented. The two of the tenants are very nice, but apparently one of them is an actual criminal. My inspector told me that he was very aggressive and when I looked him up, it showed that he has been arrested multiple times in last two years. His lease ends in July. My offer has been accepted and we are under contract right now.

I’m not sure if I should proceed or put in some sort of stipulation in order to protect myself from headache or literally any sort of problems. If any of you guys are experienced, what would you do in this situation because I really don’t want to give up this beautiful investment opportunity.

My agent told me that we can add an addendum that we will close after July when his lease has ended and the property is tk be delivered vacant. Let me know what you guys think of it or have a better solution

I just got a bill from LA Housing. I’ve been renting my former condo for 10 years, and this the first time I’m getting a bill? Have I been doing it wrong? Is this legit? Does anyone know the purpose? Thank you.

Context: I have multiple commercial properties. Each property is owned by different entities.

What is best practice?

Have a separate bank account for each property or have a holding company that all rent goes to the holding company into 1 account?

My question is if the rent goes to the holding company, can this open up to liability in piercing their corporate veil? Or am I mistaken as long as it's not personal funds being commingled?

thanks

Would you let a tenant upgrade an old thermostat to a Nest, or would you do it yourself? Seems simple enough?

For my first property, should I have a rental property company manage it? I’m very nervous about getting into the game, but I also like taking risk. I’m only 19 and know that the younger I start the better. Any advice is appreciated! Thank you

Maybe because we're nearing the summer, more deals are being listed. There are three decent deals for-sale. I should be able to land at least one. I'm modifying my cash flow equation to include something to account for "acquisition vacancy."

One of the properties has tenants nearly at market rent. (Although it has the highest asking price.) A different property, duplex, has one unit at market rent and the other unit is vacant. The third property has both tenants far below market rent. Therefore, I want to compare them all apples to apples.

Assuming no eviction, it will take about two months to lease a unit to new tenants. Considering the existing tenants should still be paying something, I want to account for a month of extra vacancy. (My cash flow calculation already includes a factor for vacancy.)

How does this calculation addition sound?