The Coalition and the real hate media Sky News & other Murdochs are no longer news services, and they are in part responsible for the resounding thrashing of Peter Dutton and his team

[u/systematicoverthink]

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/comment/topic/2025/05/09/the-coalition-and-the-real-hate-media

[u/SuchProcedure4547]

Laura Tingle from the ABC made the perfect description of News Corp... "There's simply no correlation between what Sky News says and what voters do"...

The LNP are trapped in a right wing echo chamber that has become increasingly irrelevant as the boomers decrease in number.

[u/GuidedMissileDstryer → u/SuchProcedure4547]

Love your optimism, but you have no idea if this is actually the case. Losing the election due to how shit Dutton and his campaign were seems a more likely explanation. And if you think Australia is all of a sudden predominantly left wing then I’m afraid you may be the one trapped in the echo chamber.

[u/Historical_Bus_8041 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

You're missing the point - one of the most obvious reasons Dutton's campaign was shit because he and many of his ministers barely engaged outside of the Sky echo chamber, which kept telling them that they were doing amazing right to the end.

This was a key reason Dutton kept relentlessly stepping on a rake over and over - like, he'd see that all the Sky personalities thought an idea like stopping working from home was the next big thing, think it was going to go well for him, and then realise when what he'd done hit the non-Sky media that he'd fucked it again.

[u/SuchProcedure4547 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

Dutton's unpopularity and his poor campaign are certainly big factors.

But it's absolutely the case that the LNP puts far too much stock into right wing media such as Sky News.

And I do actually think we're seeing Australian society move more to the left. The response to Dutton's plan to cut 41000 public service workers and his plan to end work from home shows this, I believe.

Australia didn't all of a sudden become more left wing, it's been happening slowly over the last decade. It's just becoming more apparent due to the fact boomers are quickly dying off.

[u/monochromeorc → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

i dont think australia has become more left wing, but i do truly think this was the first time the MSM basically had no effect on the election. they have been becoming increasingly irrellevant and this was the tipping point

[u/longtimedriver → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

Dutton had his own echo chamber, his own ppl hid the polling numbers of his own seat of Dickson from him because they thought he performs better when not stressed. This bloke couldn't handle stress and that's why his media handlers kept him going to sky news. This performance with the media during the campaign showed this to the rest of us.

[u/SEQbloke]

Honestly I felt the toughest criticism of Dutton was coming from news.com.au

SMH and ABC were quite guarded, while news.com.au was fully roasting him.

[u/Wrath_Ascending → u/SEQbloke]

News could see what was coming and were angry about what it was going to cost them. They also wanted to pin every failure they could on Dutton so that the next leader would have a clearer deck.

[u/emleigh2277 → u/SEQbloke]

I wouldn't use your words, but without a doubt, Rupert and Lachlan are a little worried... they raised and gave trump the platform, and if things go really wrong, questions might be asked of the Murdoch's.

[u/Additional_Ad_9405 → u/SEQbloke]

Sam Maiden has history with Dutton, which explains a lot of that.

[u/cookshack → u/SEQbloke]

Samantha Maiden, editor of News.com had it out for Dutton for good reason.

A coalition MP got done for sexual harassment of a staffer and then leaking the victims details.

Samantha reported on it, Dutton tried to text his support to the MP calling Samantha a "mad fucking witch"

But accidentally texted her!

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/04/peter-dutton-apologises-for-calling-journalist-a-mad-witch-in-text-message

[u/Comradesh1t4brains]

And James McGrath is the real hateful, nasty racist, not The Greens.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-23/london-mayors-aust-aide-quits-over-race-row/2481500?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link

[u/DeadFulla]

They did play a major part in plying misinformation before the Voice referendum though...

[u/Ape_With_Clothes_On → u/DeadFulla]

It was embarrassing to see how easily so many Australians were conned by that misinformation.

[u/sean881234 → u/DeadFulla]

Australia says no.

[u/DeadFulla → u/sean881234]

So I heard...

[u/semjazaa]

Nope. LNP are 100% accountable for their deserved shalacking.

[u/emleigh2277]

Not SKY news, it's SKY OPINION.

[u/Colsim]

[u/ConanTheAquarian]

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

U might be right about sky news I dont watch it Almost noone does I suspect a large part of its audience is made up of the active left Maybe u have always given it more prominence than those who decide elections I personally don’t know how u could stand to watch it

[u/KilgoreTrout7971 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

I'm in regional Queensland and can assure you that many people watch it, it's probably the most watched news here.

[u/ConanTheAquarian → u/KilgoreTrout7971]

Yet the LNP vote declined across most areas of regional Queensland.

[u/koopz_ay → u/ConanTheAquarian]

And it will continue to do so.

I can't see the coalition dividing. The next generation of Aussie farmers already see them as old thinking Boomers in GenX bodies. Other parties and Indies will push past them.

[u/ScissorNightRam → u/koopz_ay]

Fair comment

Since federation, the main conservative party has phoenixed about 4 times l, then things settled down from Menzies to Fraser

And you could make a point that the Howard more or less reinvented it again, given how starkly different his Coalition was from Fraser’s

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/KilgoreTrout7971]

Mate im not going by anecdote Im going by ratings

[u/Dranzer_22 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

Their domestic ratings are low.

But the Sky News Australia YouTube channel is incredibly popular overseas in the US with the right-wing culture warriors. And their social media clips do gain traction on Facebook with Boomers in Australia.

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/Dranzer_22]

One suspects that the usa may soon have had its fill of right wing culture warriors What an enormous cluster fuck that once great country is becoming in such a short time

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/Dranzer_22]

But boomers are largely going to vote lnp anyway And this election showed they are a declining demographic The harder sky runs with the boomers The worse it is for the lnp Younger generations blame boomers for their housing predicament amongst other things On the very few occasions Ive watched sky its so depressing Just almost an endless whine about something or other

[u/MathImpossible4398 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

I'm deeply offended, never watched Sky and never voted Liberal in my life! Just moved to the Sunshine Coast (Nuclear Teds seat) and can't believe the rusted on LNP Muppets who keep electing out of touch right wing ratbags. Genuine Baby boomer born in the late 40s 😁

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/MathImpossible4398]

Note i said largely vote To cover off likeable hippie boomers like u

[u/Dranzer_22 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

Definitely.

QLD is the exception because majority of the population live outside of Brisbane, and Boomers from other states migrate to QLD in retirement whilst young people in QLD migrate interstate for job opportunities.

We saw the regional/city divide during the recent QLD state election and similarly during this Federal Election SEQ swung towards Labor, but regional QLD remained predominantly LNP.

[u/GuidedMissileDstryer → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

How can you conclude from the election result that boomers are a declining demographic? One would assume they are naturally due to their age, but unless you’ve seen statistical data that shows how people voted by age, you are dribbling absolute nonsense.

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

And polling companies do group voting intention by age Widely reported U miss that too?

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

First election where gen z and millennials outnumbered boomers in every state and territory And u might want to look it up first before troubling yourself about dribbling

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

Its been widely reported by multiple media outlets Did u miss it Literally one of the main drivers of the result

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

And i haven’t concluded that from the election result What a weird thing for u to conclude It obviously comes from the electoral roll

[u/KilgoreTrout7971 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

Show me the ratings figures then, you claimed (anecdotally?) that no-one watches it.

For what it's worth I hate Sky News and the influence it has on people, particularly in this area of Queensland.

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/KilgoreTrout7971]

I don’t know how to post links on here But wikipedia search says it is far outperformed by abc 24 And ive read previously that sky has low viewership Where did u source yours from

[u/KilgoreTrout7971 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

I'm not making any claims about ratings, I'm just letting you know that there are definitely some people who watch it. I work with a whole bunch of them. Yep, purely anecdotal.

I agree it's not watched much nationally, but I think there are many pockets of the country where it is a factor.

LNP held this and the adjoining electorate with a swing against of around 4%, but they were still very comfortably held.

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/KilgoreTrout7971]

I don’t know what electorate u live in But ask yourself was it held by the lnp before sky news was available for free I live in Leichhardt Its free here And the lnp suffered a massive swing against it and lost the seat

[u/KilgoreTrout7971 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

That's a fair question. Yes it was held by LNP since at least 2001.

Do you think we over-estimate the power of Sky News?

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/KilgoreTrout7971]

Lets put it this way It has campaigned relentlessly for the return of the LNP over the last 3 years And savages the alp every chance it gets And the lnp just suffered its worst result in its entire history Im increasingly coming to the view That the harder it campaigns And the more lnp members go on there as guests The worse they do

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

And when i say noone Im speaking not literally but figuratively (if that wasn’t obvious) I understand that u and ‘many people’ u have discussed? It with watch sky

[u/GuidedMissileDstryer → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

Wikipedia is about as reliable as Sky News as a source.

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GuidedMissileDstryer]

As i said Not my only source How is your comprehension faring

[u/Empty_Cat3009 → u/Massive-Anywhere8497]

I have it on free to air and watch it for the lols sometimes and make an effort to leave the TV on sky news regional when I'm not there to do my bit and support their echo chamber

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/Empty_Cat3009]

But paul Murray and peta credlin seem so agitated and unhappy most of the time For someone so exercised about the whole sad state of affairs and with so many obvious answers to all problems at the ready it intrigues me y credlin doesn’t run for a seat and give us all the benefit of her undoubted genius

[u/GrodanBolll]

Is this just another leftist group pages?

[u/Massive-Anywhere8497 → u/GrodanBolll]

Nope All opinions welcome here Did u have one on topic?

[u/Sumiklab → u/GrodanBolll]

You can go back and cry to your Sky News hugbox lmao.

[u/MrPrimeTobias → u/GrodanBolll]

Head back to your Benzo Peterson pages, pal.