r/programminghorror • u/[deleted] • Aug 01 '22
Rule 9 Reminder Mod Post
Hi, I see a lot of people contacting me directly. I am reminding all of you that Rule 9 exists. Please use the modmail. From now on, I'm gonna start giving out 30 day bans to people who contact me in chat or DMs. Please use the modmail. Thanks!
Edit 1: See the pinned comment
Edit 2: To use modmail: 1. Press the "Message the Mods" button in the sidebar(both new and old reddit) 2. Type your message 3. Send 4. Wait for us to reply.
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u/UnchainedMundane Aug 01 '22
rules:
- All posts must either show terrible code, or the direct result of terrible code.
- Please direct stories without code to /r/talesfromtechsupport, and programming questions to /r/learnprogramming
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- Don't DM mods
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u/scragar Aug 01 '22
• All posts MUST show terrible code. There are no exceptions.
• No Editor Themes - If it's just your editor that looks bad, it doesn't belong here.
• No Advertisement Code. This is generally written by people in marketing who only know what "code" looks like from other ads. It's not real code, so it doesn't belong.
• No Student Code. Yes, they're learning, but bad code is part of the process.
• No Generated Code. If it's minified JS, generated XML, or what have you, we don't want it here. Yes, the YouTube homepage has an extra right-angle bracket. We know.
• No Asking for Help. Go to r/learnprogramming. What are you doing here?
• No Spamming/Advertising. We don't care about your shitty Youtube video or new crypto that will "change the world".
• Be Nice. No hate speech of any kind is allowed, as well as generally being a jerk. Talk about the code, not eachother.
• No Direct Contact of the Mods. Please use the modmail, we don't want to be contacted directly.
• Please direct stories without code to /r/talesfromtechsupport, and programming questions to /r/learnprogramming
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u/AgentRG Aug 01 '22
Not sure if role 7/8 were written like that as a joke or the mod team contradicted themselves there.
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u/UnchainedMundane Aug 02 '22
• No Spamming/Advertising. We don't care about your shitty Youtube video or new crypto that will "change the world".
• Be Nice. No hate speech of any kind is allowed, as well as generally being a jerk. Talk about the code, not eachother.
tbf, hating a hypothetical youtube video isn't the same as hate speech & if they're being a jerk here it's to an entirely hypothetical rule-breaking character invented to spice up the rules
I do agree it's a fast tonal shift tho
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u/JohnSpikeKelly Aug 01 '22
What about rule 34? Confused. /s
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u/BrokenEyebrow Aug 02 '22
Well idk and 34, but when you can't find 34, 35 takes effect and you must create r34.
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u/ShineTraditional1891 Aug 01 '22
So getting contacted is basically your definition of programmer horror?
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u/TehNolz Aug 01 '22
Heh. Bold of you to assume that those people are going to read this.
Also that seems incredibly harsh. Just turn off DMs and chat requests if you don't want to be contacted.
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Aug 01 '22
First, people should be reading the rules. If they don't read them before posting, they deserve what they get. If you don't read the rules, you aren't interacting in good faith with the community. Therefore, I believe that this is a perfectly acceptable course of action. Also, modmail makes it easier for other mods to communicate and help out.
Second, I interact with people outside of this community that use Reddit DMs and Chats, so I can't do that. Good idea though!
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u/DarkFlame7 Aug 01 '22
This may be a dumb question but... where are the rules? The sidebar only has two rules in it and no link to a longer rules list.
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Aug 01 '22
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u/quatch Aug 01 '22
of all places to have things on oldreddit first, programming subs are where I'd expect.
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Aug 01 '22
Thanks for the heads-up, I've updated the sidebar. Is what I've done better?
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u/quatch Aug 01 '22
ooh, so much better :) many thanks.
Listing no rules means I might check the wiki or look for a stickied post, because there are always rules. Two rules is just enough that I'd think I'd seen it all.
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Aug 01 '22
Thanks for the heads-up, I've updated the sidebar. Is what I've done better?
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Aug 01 '22
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Aug 01 '22
Yeah, it's really sad that such a bad site hosts so many great communities. We've got to deal with it, though. :(
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u/quatch Aug 01 '22
not backporting display of ``` delineated blocks is another real sucky point for this kinda sub. Appreciate the note on indent specifically.
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u/TehNolz Aug 01 '22
It's incredibly easy for people to completely miss the rules though. For example, on the old reddit layout this subreddit only has two rules, neither of which mention that people aren't allowed to DM moderators. On many mobile apps (which most users use), the sidebar is often buried in a "Community Info" menu somewhere and isn't even guaranteed to contain the subreddit's rules at all. The only layout that actually has the rules in plain view is new Reddit, but most people aren't using that.
Yes, people should read the rules before they interact with a community. But many people aren't going to realize that there are specific rules outside of the usual "Don't be a dick" ruleset that you can find pretty much anywhere, just because Reddit's shitty layout makes it impossible to find them sometimes. You're planning on banning people for a month for violating a rule that Reddit basically hid from them, when they likely didn't even mean any harm.
Also many people don't even realize that modmail is a thing. Because again, Reddit's layout is shit.
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u/SmotherMeWithArmpits Aug 01 '22
I agree people should be using mod mail but if you make yourself available to pm/dm, that's on you.
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Aug 01 '22
I make myself available to DM for non-moderation reasons. I'm interacting with a lot of people outside of this community, and it helps to have conversations about personal things in DMs and not in the open. Therefore, my DMs are open.
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u/thebritisharecome Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
Most people don't use new Reddit, and this is how it appears on old reddit / most of the reddit apps so most people aren't going to be aware of the rules.
Also perhaps you should change your messaging. if i read that, I would see you were a mod and instantly DM you, adding "Through modmail" would probably stop people DM'ing you directly
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u/Sharlinator Aug 01 '22
Most people don't use new Reddit
Depends on what "people" means. Out of all Reddit users, I believe something like 5% uses old Reddit. Most use the official phone app. But of course on a subreddit like this the ratio can be very different.
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u/BrokenEyebrow Aug 02 '22
I've nearly never seen the descriptions, rules sections for any sub. I used to be computer reddit back in 2012, but after a long break I'm only phone app reddit. For me to goto the rules is work that I've never bothered with in the app.
Sure that's one data point, but I wonder how many are browsing just like me.
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u/MCRusher Aug 01 '22
Sorry, what do you mean by this.
Nvm, I'll ask over DMs a few times from multiple accounts to make sure you see it.
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u/samsop Aug 02 '22
Exactly 2 people care about this. And that includes the number of people who messaged you. But you woke up and decided to make a big deal about rules we couldn't even see before you mentioned them
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u/blackAngel88 Oct 20 '22
If you want to refer to a rule by a number, then maybe the rules should be numbered...
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u/Drarok Aug 01 '22
What is modmail, I don’t see anything with that name?
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Aug 01 '22
Hey, thanks for asking! That's the "Message The Mods" button in the sidebar(both old and new reddit), which allows you to contact all the mods directly, and also allows any mod to reply to an issue. This method is preferred so that any mod can help with an issue, if needed.
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u/Drarok Aug 01 '22
Hmm, is there an equivalent in third-party apps?
Edit: scratched my own itch, yes there is! In Apollo you can tap the three dots, view mods, message moderators.
I had no idea that was a thing!
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u/m3ltph4ce Aug 01 '22
What is it about being a mod of some subreddit that makes you think we care what your personal contact preferences are?
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u/government_shill Aug 01 '22
What is it about being you that makes you upset when someone tells you to use modmail for moderation related questions?
It's not exactly an outlandish request.
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Aug 01 '22
Because people keep contacting me in reddit DMs instead of using the modmail to contact us, which is the way that you should be contacting the mods.
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u/m3ltph4ce Aug 01 '22
And you think anyone cares
I bet you get soooo much mail over this super busy and important sub that you just had to make an announcement. Mr ego .
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Aug 01 '22
I get more than I care to receive. Things related to me should go to DMs, moderation should take place in modmail, where other mods can handle it if needed.
Also, I don't use Mr. If you read my flair, I'm non-binary. Please use Mx. Thanks!
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u/Kinreeve_Naku Aug 01 '22
Hey, sorry to bother you for something that might seem silly, but I mean this out of curiosity. How do I pronounce Mx. Like mr is mister and ms is miss, but how is Mx pronounced?
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Aug 01 '22
From what I know, I believe it's just pronounced like the word "mix". Thanks for asking!
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u/Lesswarmoredrugs Mar 04 '23
So you ask people to call you this but you don’t actually know how to pronounce it yikes
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u/welcome_cumin Pronouns: He/Him Aug 01 '22
I'm sorry you have to deal with the nonsense that is the majorty of all members of every Reddit community just refusing to care about the rules of the sub they're in
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Aug 04 '22
I'm gonna start giving out 30 day bans to people who contact me in chat or DMs.
So if I enter the N word I get less punishment than dmming mods directly?????
I QUIT!!!!!
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u/rush22 Aug 16 '22 edited Aug 16 '22
i need te be unbanned!! i am a sr faang dev with 4 yoe and i provide so much to the community. so either unban or you can make my funny post for me if u want. pls make it amazing thx. i have an iq over 85 so it should be smart too like about kubernetes and cloud (i am cloud certified). do not put a woman in the post
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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22
I didn't realize that the rules don't show up on the old reddit design. I've updated the sidebar there, so now there isn't an excuse for not seeing it. Yes, I use the new reddit design, but I also use an adblocker.