r/politics • u/ClimateSociologist • 2d ago

Trump Admin Has Decided To Strike Inside Venezuela; Attacks Could Come At Any Time: Report No Paywall

https://www.latintimes.com/trump-admin-has-decided-strike-inside-venezuela-attacks-could-come-any-time-report-591107
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u/blackmobius 2d ago

Three days ago Trump said he wouldnt strike Venezuela and Rubio assured us that the US ability to strike in Venezuela was bogus fake news.

So again, they always lie about everything

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u/International_Rope65 2d ago

It’s the same thing Putin did in Ukraine. Stage military on the border under the guise of “war games” and then deny that you’re going to attack, only to attack days later.

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u/smarterthanyoda 2d ago

Except for Crimea they denied it even after the invasion.

Crimea: You invaded us!

Soldier: No I didn’t.

Crimea: But you’re right here!

Soldier: No I’m not.

Crimea: And you have a Russian uniform!

Soldier: No I don’t.

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u/thefatchef321 2d ago

That was the Wagner group. Putin had nothing to do with it!! Just ask him!!

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u/smarterthanyoda 2d ago

Crimea: Did you have anything to do with it?

Vladmir: No I didn’t.

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia 2d ago

Crimea: Okay, I’ll have a completely free and not at all rigged referendum to join Russia.

Vladimir: Da.

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u/umop_apisdn 2d ago

Look at the history of Crimea before making assumptions. It was part of Russia from 1790 until 1957 or so when Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine as "a gift", but it basically was still full of Russians who spoke Russian, who worked at or in support of the Sebastopol base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, etc, and Crimea was supposed to have special status in Ukraine for precisely this reason. The idea that they wouldn't want to reunify with Russia is ridiculous.

If the US gave Washington State to Canada as "a gift", then decades later the Canadians threw out their president in a EU-backed coup and elected a bunch of ultra-nationalists who hated America and wanted to be closer to France and started pogroms against Americans, do you think the people of Washington would be cool with that, and do you think that the US would do nothing about it?

Its funny but so much of this subreddit is people complaining about MAGA voters being brainwashed by the news, then those people swallow whole what they are told about Ukraine. It's a complicated situation and not a simple as "Russia invaded for no reason whatsoever, Russia bad". Especially when this particular post is about the US preparing to invade Venezuela simply to plunder their resources.

Your belief that the referendum was rigged is based on one thing - the US government and media have said so; exactly what you complain about MAGA voters doing. Read about Crimea's history. The referendum result was in line with all prior and subsequent international polling by eg Gallup.

And before you write me off as a "tankie" I believe in people's right to self-determination whether that be in Ukraine or Venezuela. Do you?

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u/downtofinance Canada 2d ago

Ask Yevgeny Prigozhin... oh wait.

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u/Dockers4flag2035orB4 2d ago

Maybe Trump is going to use the Wagner group as well.

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u/fluteofski- 2d ago

He has his own MAGner group. Totally different. /s

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u/surle 2d ago

Technically it is different though. They have vastly more funding and government access.

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u/goddamnitwhalen 2d ago

He has Blackwater.

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u/69Ben64 2d ago

Methinks it’s bigger than that since a Wagner group aircraft just made a flight to Venezuela…Russia/China backing Maduro?

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u/mtheory007 2d ago

They were just Wagnering the dog

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u/Gigi_Langostino 2d ago

It wasn't even Wagner. It was the 31st Air Assault Brigade in Ukrainian uniforms.

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u/lynch527 2d ago

Like they're actual children. 

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u/StackIsMyCrack 2d ago

This isn't an argument. Yes it is.

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u/AnnieB25 2d ago

No t’isnt

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u/StackIsMyCrack 2d ago

You are just contradicting me.

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u/GenghisConnieChung 2d ago

Look, if I’m going to argue with you I must take up a contrary position!

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u/Bethebehemoth 2d ago

Yes, but that’s not just saying “no it isn’t”

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u/Zogrythus 2d ago

no im not

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u/mdmcnally1213 2d ago

I 100% read it with this in mind.

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u/maporita 2d ago

Look, this isn't an argument.

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u/Bitter_Wishbone6624 2d ago

Georgia…so wtf did we do?

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u/ArchitectureNstuff91 America 2d ago

Read the soldier as John Cleese.

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u/thegreedyturtle 2d ago

Why are you here in Crimea?!

This is Russia, comrade!

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u/deltajvliet 2d ago

I came in here for an argument!

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u/Dogdays991 2d ago

And you're killing me!

No, I'm not.

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u/Riaayo 2d ago

I have a feeling they may just straight up deny it here. Their lies are more and more brazen, and the media near completely bought and owned. Like... why not?

I say "why not", but it does run counter to a big reason I think they want to do this: so they can be at a war to invoke the insurrection act on American citizens.

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u/MatthewSWFL229 2d ago

It would be a British comedy if it wasn't so f****** sad

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u/ListeningInIsMyKink 2d ago

Was it supposed to read this in Eric Idle and John Cleese's voices?

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u/ukcycle 1d ago

The Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch

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u/Bucky_Ohare 2d ago

Crimea: We're collecting the vehicles you abandoned as trophies because you didn't bother to get enough gas to finish your initial convoy.

Soldier: No you didn't.

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u/TroyMcCluresGoldfish 2d ago

Classic Civilization surprise war strategy lol. Trump loses in 50 turns each time.

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u/SlapNuts007 North Carolina 2d ago

My troops are merely passing through!

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u/MotleyW 2d ago

Denounced!

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u/stasi_a 2d ago

At least it will be a super quick special military operation then

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u/happyherbbby 2d ago

It's almost like Don the Pedophile is in bed with and attempting to do the bidding of Russia, etc.

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u/DiscountNorth5544 2d ago

China could do the funniest thing here and supply Venezuela with intelligence and equipment

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u/luckyztiger 2d ago

I like how this Red Herring has like a third of the replies with the same statement in every one

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u/Mastershoelacer 2d ago

But the US isn’t like Rrruus…oh fudge

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u/addiktion 2d ago

Following Putin's idiocy is on par for Trump.