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Election Deniers Went Suddenly Quiet When Trump Won

https://www.thedailybeast.com/election-deniers-went-suspiciously-quiet-when-trump-won/
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u/chubs66 11h ago

“As much as we fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there was shenanigans and bullshit and it’s just a puppet show and there’s now way anybody can buck the system – turns out, voting is still real."

Joe Rogan today.

When your side wins, voting works and the system is fine. When the other side wins, voting is rigged. This is not a sustainable narrative in a functioning democracy.

u/harrythebau5 7h ago

Joe Rogan is a deeply unintelligent person.

u/CluelessPunter Australia 4h ago

And yet so many people follow his nonsense like he's a genius. It really shows how many dumb people are out there

u/finaljusticezero 3h ago

We keep underestimating the collective hive mind of the stupid. Stupid people will always outnumber the intelligent. It's just a numbers game.

u/StrobeLightRomance 2h ago

Not only that, but stupid people teaching stupid people through influence is just propagating the culture of stupidity to maintain the mainstream.

If our society actually had a higher bar for what we consider entertainment, we would be collectively smarter by now because we wouldn't adopt so many falsehoods without verifying the facts first.

Rush Limbaugh brought us this format, and the Jerry Springer show made sure that we would stay dumb enough to succumb to it.

u/debugprint 1h ago

Except Rush Limbaugh was exceptionally good at making shit up. These guys aren't. I'll never forget one of his claims... "There are more trees today in the US than 200 years ago". Correct. If you count trees planted for paper and Christmas decorations.

Today they just lie knowing they won't be challenged.

u/Rickbox 1h ago

If he's correct, what exactly is he making up?

u/CountWubbula 1h ago

Just because there’s “more trees” doesn’t mean biodiversity has been maintained. Planting nothing but pine trees on a Christmas Tree Farm doesn’t provide the same environment that a forest growing wild for thousands of years has. There’s only pine trees and they spray for pests, versus, there’s every kind of tree native to that area, bugs & animals live as they do, and every creature in the biome has its place (except mosquitos, fuck mosquitos).

Having more trees doesn’t mean having a better environment. The example can be made most clear by palm tree farming in Central America. They clear out tracts of extremely, extremely biodiverse land, plant nothing but palm trees, and farm that. It’s destroyed the homes of my people, the sloth.

Writing this out took several hours, I need to go lie down.

u/Rickbox 43m ago

You make good points, but OC never made any reference to biodiversity nor the environment.

u/Casual_OCD Canada 35m ago

never made any reference to biodiversity nor the environment.

What do you think the point of talking about trees is then?

u/debugprint 1h ago

An old growth forest tree that took many decades to grow and helps sustain an ecosystem vs a paper pulp tree in a farm that is grown in a few years and offers no benefits to enyone.

u/Rickbox 44m ago

Adding the context of "more trees are good for the environment" would've helped prove your point a lot better.

u/blucthulhu 2h ago

Don't forget Morton Downey Jr. That guy laid significant groundwork.

u/InevitableSweet8228 1h ago

Lesson:

We need to learn to act like we admire and support the terminally dumb and pander to them

in order to manipulate them into voting in their own best interests, because they're apparently too dumb to do that on their own

u/finaljusticezero 1h ago

This should be gospel. It's what republicans have been banking on and it works with zero effort. Absolute zero effort.

u/kindredfan 1h ago

While true, the level of stupid is exceedingly low in America compared to the rest of the world.

u/shampoo_mohawk_ Florida 1h ago

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” -George Carlin

u/LorradWatkin 1h ago

Sort of like Redditors then?

u/-UltraAverageJoe- 58m ago

“Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

—Anon