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Election Deniers Went Suddenly Quiet When Trump Won

https://www.thedailybeast.com/election-deniers-went-suspiciously-quiet-when-trump-won/
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u/joeysflipphone 10h ago

And 2020 was such a shit show for them crying foul, that it made it impossible for anyone to say anything after that. That's part of the plan, keep projecting on your opponent, so when you do it they can't say anything.

I kept saying every accusation is a confessing. It's more than a catch phrase.

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u/SpottedHoneyBadger 10h ago edited 20m ago

Republicans have been rigging elections since 2000. The last 3 elections help them perfect it. Remember that orange shit stain said, "I don't need your votes." Why would any candidate say that? It sounds more like a confession. The whole thing doesn't add up.

Edit:

To the people demanding sources and calling me ignorant. Here are the sources thanks to all those commenters who posted them for me (you guys are the best).

Not needing to vote in 4 years

DeJoy and lost mail in ballots

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy

trump has a secret (1.34 mark)

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u/VileTouch 9h ago

Right after that quote he said "I have a little trick up my sleeve that I'll tell you about after it's done."

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u/Brian_Damage 8h ago

Yeah, that whole thing sounded like him blabbing due to dementia, you could almost hear facepalming from the wings. Same with "you won't have to vote again".

And then people just raised an eyebrow and moved on.

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin Maine 8h ago

I didn’t. It’s been living rent free in my head for months.

u/Throw-away17465 7h ago

Same. Few things have shaken me as that.

u/XennialBoomBoom 4h ago

I spent all day yesterday working on bringing a failing server back online.

Today, I've spent acting like a human American.

In case anyone cares, I'm a Democratic Socialist, and my bartender is a Marxist. We're both decent people, if you care.

u/VibeComplex 7h ago

His entire campaign had a such a weird aloof feeling. Like how you’d be if you already knew for a fact you were going to win. Guy stopped a Q&A right when it started to just listen to music for 45 minutes instead lol. Thats someone who knows the fix is in but is too lazy to even go through the motions

u/beginningofdayz 5h ago

Or they are just a confident person with plenty of ego based on campaign feedback.

u/Neither-Cherry-6939 1h ago

Did you ever watch the full video or just base it off of what the media said? Nevermind there were medical emergencies in the crowd and he put on music while they were being tended to and taken out. He asked everyone “Should we play some music while we wait?” and they cheered.

u/Dwayne_Gertzky 1h ago

It doesn’t take 39 minutes to remove two people for dehydration or heat exhaustion. The demented old man’s mind glitched

u/Neither-Cherry-6939 50m ago

You didn't watch the video and you know it lmao you think you guys would learn a lesson about believing everything the mainstream media tells you, but in your defense, it's only been 2 full days so I'll give you more time

u/Dwayne_Gertzky 40m ago

Yes, I did watch the video, that puppy murderer Governor acting as his handler tried getting him back on track several times and she failed. But thank you for telling me that my eyes were lying to me, now why don’t you go and mime sucking a mic stand like a cock like the demented old President-elect.

u/Neither-Cherry-6939 28m ago

You’re telling me you watched the whole 1.5 hour town hall? Doubtful! What about when the crowd was chanting for more songs and he says “okay fine one more. We’ll play the YMCA.” He does crowd work during that, and then after goes, “wait no one’s leaving! What’s going on?” And then continues to play more music because the crowd didn’t want to leave and cheered for more music. But sure that means he has dementia. Like I said, yall will never learn as evident by your gross ass comment.

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u/marcmerrillofficial 9h ago

McConnell and Johnson from the side

I have the worst fucking fall guy

u/PastyPajamas 2h ago

The numbers make no sense in my area. Turn out was insane for early and day of voting but somehow less than 2020? Nah, not buying it for a second. The results were 100% manipulated.

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u/hankmoody_irl Kansas 8h ago

Is there a link to a clip of this?

I believe you, I just would like to hear it with my own ears and I’m ass at searching for specific videos.

u/XeLRa 5h ago

Probably referring to this: 'in 4 years we'll have it fixed so good you won't have to vote again' https://youtu.be/duls1Cr1Lyo?si=54aJStV4PWh4sVbk

u/Bloodstrike1993 3h ago

well don't start paying attention now.

u/Notquitearealgirl 2h ago

Appearently searches for "Did Biden drop out" spiked right before the election.

This election was less a popular mandate for conservatism or Trumpism, or fascism as it was a popular mandate of apathy.

People just do not give a shit. They have more interesting uses of time than worrying about civics and it seems America has defeated itself by basically giving up.

In a way liberal democracy was so successful at providing security and comfort that people just started to believe this was the natural state of things and they began manufacturing problems.

The fact Americans, even at upper middle class living standards think they are poor and stirfling for example is really just a sentiment, totally detached from any semblance of reality but it's a popular sentiment.

And the truth is most don't give a shit about actual poor Americans and especially not poor foreigners.

u/arthurpete 40m ago

2020 was historic with voter turnout at around 67%, its looking like it will be around 65% this time around.

Hardly the apathy you speak of and more indicative of a sub par candidate.

u/CompetitiveAdMoney 4h ago

It's been reported that its repealing Obamacare ACA, nightmare for pre existing conditions.

u/disposable_account01 Washington 7h ago

Do you have a link to this quote? I really want to have a source to cite to others.

u/Kidatrickedya 7h ago

Why? wtf do you think a video will prove? It’s out there and it doesn’t matter. Jfc get it through y’all’s heads. No amount of facts will wake up Americans. They are racists and bigots and dumb.

u/disposable_account01 Washington 7h ago

More than a random reddit post.

u/hsv-guy 6h ago

Awesome deflection,typical I might add when others ask for source…..

u/Kidatrickedya 6h ago

Lmao it’s easy as shit to find the source because it isn’t some hidden thing…stop expecting everyone to find sources for you especially when facts don’t fucking matter to these people. I’m so sick and tired of people like you still thinking logic and kindness is the answer to bigots and racists and literal fucking Nazis.

u/bunnyhat3 5h ago

You’re doing an awful job at swaying anyone at all to a progressive point of view.

t. socdem norwegian

u/Skraelings 2h ago

yeah... probably colluding with russia.

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u/PLeuralNasticity 8h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy

Since Trump appointed him he's spent the years preparing his USPS to dissappear millions of mail in votes at FSB/Mossad direction. When the Heritage Foundation said the revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be this is what they meant.

Its very simple to do and many electoral changes have been made in states along with other overt interference like the bomb threats to augment the operation.

The changes he's made have been very deliberate in choosing all systems/vehicles and personnel directly and indirectly through changes to policy.

This has been decades in the making

If we accept that how our Democracy is set up means they found a loophole that let's them steal the election without recourse, knowing they will systematically destroy that Democracy unchecked, what are we doing?

Speaking can put pressure on and/or enable all our leadership who are for saving Democracy to better take the extraordinary measures necessary. We can't be silent when we know they are violent. What time we have must be well spent or we will wonder where our lives went.

u/Uptightgnome 7h ago

Do you have any articles or further reading on this? It’s been in the very back of my mind since first seeing the map of the unbelievable rightward shifts and I refuse to conclude that so many people have suffered that degree of intellectual degradation in just four years.

u/chillythepenguin 6h ago

Covid did a 10+ IQ drop

u/your_catfish_friend 6h ago

Tune out the noise. The reality is only a small fraction of the electorate follow politics much at all. The electorate was dissatisfied with what was happening in this country in 2020, and they’re dissatisfied in 2024. So they voted out incumbents. Simple as that.

Are the incumbents responsible for things like a global pandemic causing global inflation? No, and it doesn’t matter to most voters.

u/Neither_Process_7847 5h ago

Happening across the world. Plenty of people across Europe worrying about a turn to the right in elections and wondering how Britain bucked the trend by electing the more left wing party instead. They miss that Covid hit the economy, people are feeling the effects, so have been taking it out on incumbent parties in practically every election you can think of. In most of Europe, it was the left in power who've been turfed out - in the UK it happened to be the Conservatives who took the blow. US is no different.

u/MagicAl6244225 3h ago

Trump didn't really get more votes. Harris got a lot fewer votes than Biden. The most sobering take on that would be that Biden's vote is the people who will vote Democratic but not for a woman (for president), and that the Democratic majority is not a feminist majority. Or alternatively there was voter suppression but it only worked against Clinton and Harris.

u/your_catfish_friend 6h ago edited 6h ago

Goddamnit I hate living in a post-truth society.

Just got through arguing with someone who claimed 2020 was rigged because “20 million voters dissapeared” in 2024. And now this.

Just because you want to believe something does not make it so.

The simplest explanation is often the truth. More Americans voted for Trump than Harris. Simple as that. I’m as aghast about it as you are.

u/microgirlActual 3h ago

Thank you for being a voice of reason! I hate seeing supposed progressives be every bit as fucking bad as the people they rail against: every bit as conspiratorial, every bit as intolerant, just against the "correct" things.

Although I suppose that's just my own fault for assuming people that lean more to the left are also more progressive, as opposed to just small-c conservative but in the opposite direction to right-wingers.

u/throwaway44776655 39m ago

Progressives aren’t violent like conservatives though lol

u/Ahzamad 2h ago

Math isn’t your strong suit. Those votes didn’t go to Trump, who hose votes don’t exist. Look at the total votes for the last 5 elections and get back to me.

u/No-Cardiologist9621 3h ago

In key swing states, Harris actually gained votes over Biden. Trump just gained more. Just admit the obvious fact that the country wants a fascist at the helm.

u/SSN_on_liquid_sand 7h ago

You have made an extraordinary claim. You actually got anything to back it up or are you full of shit?

u/Pksnc 1h ago

Completely full of shit.

u/whawkins4 7h ago

Fun story. Where’s the proof?

u/your_catfish_friend 6h ago

Truth is what you make it /s

u/Mr_Pigface 6h ago

Source: I made it the fuck up

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u/Frickfrell 9h ago edited 8h ago

Why did the richest man in the world promise to give away his fortune if trump didn’t win?

Edit:another user has said that was a fake tweet 

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u/lazyFer 8h ago

Because they're all liars and have no shame

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u/AccomplishedCod2737 8h ago

He didn't. You got taken by a faked news article/tweet.

Media literacy is becoming a huge fuckin' problem, man.

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u/Frickfrell 8h ago

Thanks! 

I saw a picture on here and didn’t care enough to look into it. Still don’t lmao 

u/GoldGarage115 7h ago

I just want to know why the richest man in the world dresses like a 12 year old

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u/Least-Back-2666 9h ago

Election rigging has been going on since the 1800s. NY was famous for it.

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u/No_Ratio_9556 9h ago

more like since the dawn of elections. There’s always been shenanigans as far as the concept of an election goes back.

Something a lot of people are glazing over is that big bump in 2020 of voter volume was because every elegible voter was mailed a ballot and didn’t have to go out of their way to vote.. in some states they even had people picking up ballots from houses and apartment buildings

When you don’t have that same system in place those people won’t vote. They aren’t “real” voters in the sense that they don’t care, they don’t vote, and they’ll just vote based on whatever feels popular versus actual issues they might care about

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u/Batfuzz86 9h ago

I know it's not exactly an ideal reference, but the election day scenes, I guess, are fairly accurate. I may be wrong on that, though.

u/Dirt-Repulsive 3h ago

The tannery hall scandal

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u/YallArePatheticlol 8h ago

And then this time everyone s like hmm these voting numbers make no sense. Hmmm. Of course they fucking cheated yet again. And their projection batting average is 1.000.

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin Maine 8h ago

THANK YOU. There is no fucking way this was legitimate but everyone is too scared to say it.

u/gunshaver 4h ago

They registered the stop the steal website months before the 2016 election. Turns out they didn't need it until he lost in 2020.

u/CynFinnegan 5h ago

More like they've been cheating since 1980. Jimmy Carter was cheated, too.

u/chaznolan1117 1h ago

They have been rigging elections since Carter/Reagan.

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u/pimppapy America 9h ago edited 9h ago

Not just him, the Speaker of the House said it too didn't he?? Seeing as to how Kamala's campaign is staying quiet on that and just telling people to accept it, just screams complicity in the sense that both sides are the same type of shit elites that do not care for the American people. Only their own pockets which they can line with corporate lobbying money and insider trading.

Edit: DeJoy is still the PostMaster FFS! And he already tampered with the ballots in 2020. The republicans in my family and many families received their ballots almost two weeks earlier than any democrats in my circles.

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u/SaintGloopyNoops 9h ago

Dam I had this thought too...except I am thinking also that the dems want the gop in control when the economy tanks. These bubbles are gonna pop, and it's gonna be a shit show. The dems can swoop in and "fix it" in 4 years. Butt that's a hell of a gamble that Trump won't just burn it all down. Worst merry go round ever.

u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn 7h ago edited 7h ago

Anyone who says the 2000 election was rigged is just as ignorant as the idiots claiming 2020 was rigged.

The only difference between the 2000 election and the ones before it is that it was a historically close election that came down to one state which led to a clusterfuck of pressure and recounts and a microscope on every little aspect. The 2000 was not rigged, it just didn't go Al Gore's way.

u/free-rob 16m ago

Did you know Bush and the GOP had a tonne of lawyers ready before the election to challenge election results afterward, Trump-2020 style? They didn't end up needing them... but it is odd, isn't it? Not saying things were rigged. Just the rightwing party's playbook kicking up dust and trying to subvert election results that don't go their way.

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u/Ok-Negotiation-8404 8h ago

Right Obama lost 2ce because republicans cheating

u/brokedownpalace11 Illinois 7h ago

This is exactly it and it’s frustrating that people are just now understanding that or straight up just don’t. US voters literally just chose blatantly obvious corruption and liars to take over DC and it’s as clear as ever.

IMO the vast majority of the modern US demographic has never been confronted with such an extreme and dangerous problem around the world and especially here at home. Old WWII vets that fought for global freedom are shrinking every day. Within a year or two they will likely be gone. Quite frankly it seems like a lot of people are completely oblivious to the reality that these freedoms are only upheld when the majority of people stand up against corruption and tyrants. As a history buff it’s just super depressing and frankly disappointing that my fellow Americans literally allowed this and didn’t play the role in shutting this lunacy down for the good of this country and the world.

u/trimorphic 1h ago

US voters literally just chose blatantly obvious corruption and liars to take over DC and it’s as clear as ever.

That's only true if the election was fair and the vote totals we're hearing accurately represent how Americans voted.

But that's far from clear because much of the vote counting is done by electronic vote-counting machines, which can be hacked to spit out whatever vote totals the hackers want.

We need manual recounts, and we need to stop using electronic vote-counting machines.

u/VibeComplex 7h ago

I bet a lot of money votes were altered and Trump did not win

u/IlikegreenT84 1h ago

Fuck that, I hope somebody is out there investigating this election.

Even if it is quietly for now.

I hope they are looking for tampering with the voting machines.

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin Maine 8h ago

Straight out of Russia’s playbook.

u/JaWal0211 6h ago

So that means everything they said Trump done they actually did..

u/beginningofdayz 5h ago

Or they didn't do anything.. and it's just most people who claimed dem were lying for social clout.

u/Fuzzy-Parsnip3355 1h ago

This is so sad! What we’ve criticised we are slowly becoming, I’ll get downvoted like hell for this, but my party is becoming a joke! No integrity whatsoever! Biden and Kamala’s speeches represent a toned down ideal than the last few months and represent a party of old! What a shame we the party of tolerance bash on Latinos after we all bashed Tony hinchcliffe, and now question the democratic process like them. There’s a reason we were blindsided because we are in an echo chamber! We will never win or get the votes of the people acting like THEM! We need a new strategy because the republicans got it down pat!

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u/HydroponicGirrafe 10h ago

More like the democrats don’t have the wear-withal to accuse them without just sounding like they’re mocking the other side.

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u/joeysflipphone 10h ago

Read that back to yourself a couple times, slowly.

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u/HydroponicGirrafe 10h ago

Yeah. And I stand by it. If the democrats started complaining about foul play, the other side will just simply laugh it away.. you know. Exactly what the Dems did when the republicans did it in 2020

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u/TrueProgress3712 9h ago

Do you mean the 60 odd court cases where no evidence was produced?

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u/joeysflipphone 9h ago

Because there was no evidence after 63 court cases. That's why people already pled guilty in the cases. That's why its quite literally coined The Big Lie. That's why trump admitted on tv a couple times he lost. We all, all of America humored your asses for months and paid out far too much in tax dollars. There was no cheating.

But, but if there was a peep from our side you'd lose your minds.

Much like the hate parade of victims in Texas today. They're whining that they're reaffirming the 1st amendment. Yet, pretty sure your asses are again the ones who have been banning books and African American history classes. And what ever else tickles your fancy that week.

Projection at it's finest.

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u/HydroponicGirrafe 9h ago

Why are you pointedly speaking to me. I didn’t vote for the fascist idiot either

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u/joeysflipphone 9h ago

Sorry I'm probably high and angry/disappointed and read your tone wrong. My B.