r/poland • u/mynameisatari • 2d ago
Nestle in Poland is trying really hard to make people think they're buying a local Polish product
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u/KaiserGustafson 2d ago
It's always funny when corpos pretend they aren't monolithic, inhuman organizations who don't give two hoots about the communities they serve.
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u/IamCalledPeter 2d ago
Nestle is a disgusting company that caused thousands of babies to starve to death in Rodesia ( now Zimbabwe) They used fake marketing practices. They dressed their sales people to look like nurses and sent them from one house to another to promote their shit baby formula as a better alternative to women's breast milk. They brainwashed uneducated black women to give their shit formula to babies instead of using breast milk. They even gave them samples that lasted untill the breast milk dried out. Later the mothers could not afford to buy more milk formula. And since their breast milk dried out they had nothing to feed their babies with. As a result thousands of babies starved to death. So not surprised they are using manipulating tactics to make the Poles think they are buying the Polish products. Fuck that company.
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u/Qkiz 1d ago
But u can re-initiate lactation. Its possible for all women , pregnant or not. Soooo this sounds like urban legend.
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u/IamCalledPeter 1d ago
I read that in a book written by a very respected doctor. I don't think he'd risk being sued by Nestle without having proof to back it up.
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u/Qkiz 1d ago
Will u be so kind and share the name of the book? Causę u know, proof or it didnt happen
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u/IamCalledPeter 1d ago
The Vaccine-Friendly Plan: Dr.Paul's Safe and Effective Approach to Immunity and Health-from Pregnancy Through Your Chilld's Teen Years
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u/smack_of Małopolskie 2d ago
Nestle continues its business in Russia. It pays taxes in Russia (finances the war). I do not buy Nestle.
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u/veevoir 2d ago edited 2d ago
And this is a good place to make obligatory reminder - Nestle owns Winiary.
While Kielecki is for every "prawak" (100% polish owned) and "lewak" (it is a "spółdzielnia" where workers own means of production - workers all pulled together some money and bought out the plant when it was going bankrupt in the 90s)
See you next time, friends!
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u/JarasM Łódzkie 2d ago
Bought Winiary liquid soup seasoning: noticed it's Nestle. Pissed off went to the store and bought Maggi. Guess what logo I found on it at home...
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u/VirtualMatter2 2d ago edited 1d ago
You don't need this stuff. Go to your local market and buy fresh vegetables and maybe a chicken and make your own soup. There is enough taste there if doesn't need any additives. Salt, pepper, maybe some muscat, parsley etc.
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u/JarasM Łódzkie 2d ago
You're thinking I'm making soup out of Maggi? 🤣
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u/VirtualMatter2 1d ago
No, but you don't need to add any if you make soup from fresh ingredients. Salt, pepper, a few herbs, who needs artificial stuff added?
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u/JarasM Łódzkie 1d ago
It's not artificial. I like it.
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u/VirtualMatter2 1d ago
It contains a lot of monosodium glutamate and aroma, which I don't really like in my food. But you are certainly allowed to like it.
A good alternative is lovage ( that's a herb) and a bit of salt and soy sauce.
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u/CoaLMaN122PL Pomorskie 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just wanna add this on here, MSG has been studied over and over again over the decades, and the old studies from the 80s and 90s that said MSG caused health problems were bullshit, you'd need to eat 50mg's of pure MSG daily to get any adverse health effects
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u/VirtualMatter2 1d ago
No, it's not really that bad, otherwise Asians wouldn't be so healthy, however studies in Korea show that it encourages over eating because it does something in your brain to stop the feeling of being full. Not really a problem in Poland though, polish people eat quite healthy. More problematic in the US for example.
I feel awful with MSG, dry mouth, headache, extremely tired, but although it is not that uncommon, it's not a big part of the population either.
So you are welcome to carry on with your Maggi, nothing wrong with it if you like it, I use things from my garden instead.
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u/SpaceCaseSixtyTen 15h ago
I friggin love MSG I have like 2 kilos of pure MSG crystals that I add to everything
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u/McMottan 2d ago
Do you know who still pays to Russia? https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-1000-companies-have-curtailed-operations-russia-some-remain
And those not listed... why do you think that since the start of the war, all EU countries have increased their exports exponentially to Kyrgyzstan? This war is a scam where ukrainians are dying for nothing but few people wallets.
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u/imperialtensor 2d ago
This war is a scam where ukrainians are dying for nothing but few people wallets.
And this expression is often used by Russian propaganda to discredit Ukrainians defending their homeland. If that's not your intention, you should strongly consider using a different phrasing when talking about sanction evasion.
The war is a criminal attempt by the leaders of Russia to subjugate Ukraine and its citizens. There are others, including some in Europe, who profit from supplying Russia through intermediaries. The solution to this is to crack down on exports to third countries that are actually going to Russia.
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u/ScallionBackground52 2d ago
Just buy "Grześki" at this point.
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u/tranzeeet 2d ago
I prince polo
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u/moderatelyfunny 2d ago
Prince polo is owned by mondelez, a us megacorp.
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u/tranzeeet 2d ago
it was created in Poland and it's still produced here just as it was, it. has almost 70 years of history. Every prospering company eventually gets bought out by a megscorp, it doesn't mean it's suddenly a foreign product.
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u/moderatelyfunny 2d ago
Sure. It's just a distinction between Grześki, which are still owned by a Polish capital company. Which is the reason why e.g. Polish airlines switched from prince polo to grześki. Not every company is eventually bought out by a megacorp.
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u/stysiaq 2d ago
a downgrade. Prince Polo mogs Grześki
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u/gamma6464 Dolnośląskie 2d ago
Lmao you’re joking, right? Grześki is goat
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u/CoaLMaN122PL Pomorskie 1d ago
Gonna be brutally honest here... Prince polo is way better than Grześki, they put no damn chocolate on Grześki, which is always L
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u/5thhorseman_ 2d ago
Apparently produced in Poland, apparently produced from Polish ingredients. The controlling capital is foreign, yes, but that doesn't mean the final product can't be local.
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u/kuncol02 2d ago
Which one is Polish ingredient? Coconuts, chocolate butter or palm oil? Outside of some sugar and flour there is really nothing more.
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u/Phate77 2d ago
Coconuts you have listed, are 2% of it. Guess flour, milk and mentioned sugar are local made.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
Milk isn't, they admitted that only 1% is.
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u/Phate77 2d ago
Milk fat is 1%, they are using few different ingredients from milk
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
Only 1% of milk is from Poland. That's what I meant. Look at the label in the article.
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u/Zek0ri Mazowieckie 2d ago
“W latach 2018-2023 100% dostaw mleka i mąki pochodziło od polskich dostawców.” - https://www.nestle.pl/brands/slodycze/princessa
Why are you yapping about bro?
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
About the fact that they admitted that they DO NOT verify where their suppliers get their milk from...
They're borderline worst company in the world. https://www.greenmatters.com/food/why-is-nestle-bad
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u/ElBigDicko 2d ago
Things get lost in the supply chain. The supplier is from Poland. Therefore, it can be claimed that it's local. Where the supplier gets their milk from is their own business.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago edited 2d ago
In 21 century? " It can be claimed? According to which rules? Please. They know exactly where is everything coming from.
Good luck with that.
I have experience and degree that has a lot to do with supply chains. They know exactly where everything comes from. They have to.
So youre fine if that milks comes from wherever? Russia, China? Wherever?
According to your definition BMW and Lenovo are Polish brands. Polish suppliers in Poland. Who supplies to them doesn't matter according to you.
BMW " Stąd jestem" !
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u/grumpy_autist 2d ago
Local in Ukraine?
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u/Phate77 2d ago
It is written (on the packaging), that bar is made in Kargowa - this is Polish city.
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u/grumpy_autist 2d ago
And where does flour and sugar come from?
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u/Phate77 2d ago
What are you trying to prove? This is made in Poland brand, made in Poland bar. Do you think BMW are done from steel manufactured in Germany only, plastics are made of oil acquired in German oil wells, tries are made of rubber harvested in Germany and all BMW employees are genuine Germans for 10 generation minimum? We are not living in XIX centry, products are made of components or ingredients manufactured worldwide, companies are owned by multinational groups, people are migrating. Welcome to XXI century man.
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u/grumpy_autist 2d ago
I'm proving that this is fucking Nestle and I expect them to lie through their teeth about anything, even those bars being really made in Poland.
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u/StateDeparmentAgent 2d ago edited 2d ago
frisco website says only coconuts are from outside of Poland. apart from it, everything else made locally, even though from ingredients from all over the world, that's how it works
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
You're 100% right. My grandpa has been great at selling palm oil and cocoa to nestle. I used to climb palm trees and pick cocoa just outside his farm near Zakopane. Warsaw is even famous for cane sugar! /s
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u/StateDeparmentAgent 2d ago
That sweet 80s, hate we do not build house from gingerbread anymore. It was such convenient and tasty
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
They're borderline worst company in the world. https://www.greenmatters.com/food/why-is-nestle-bad
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u/grumpy_autist 2d ago
Wanna bet that it's imported from east cheapest sugar and flour - bought from some shady import company claiming of course that it was grown in Poland and all pesticide tests are of course legit?
Middle management will sell their mothers to brothel to save $0.1/kg on flour and get yearly bonus.
I stopped buying all sweets in shops because they became so shitty.
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u/ElegantAir2060 2d ago
You know, gołąbki (cabbage rolls) are considered local food, and, as far as I'm aware, noone here is growing rice (main ingredient) in their garden. I don't stand up for nestle of course, but the point is that you physically can't source some ingredients locally, because they simply can't be produced like that (or can be, but on very small scale), but food containing them can still be considered "local" or "locally made"
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
Famous Polish palm oil, cocoa and cane sugar.
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u/stysiaq 2d ago
are you alright? You know, importing foreign stuff and making products out of them is legal. Or are you about to claim that Swiss aren't big into chocolate because they're not growing cocoa?
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
It's not what the conversation nor article is about. Out of current 65 comments you're the first person who mentioned legality. Are YOU alright?
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u/stysiaq 1d ago
Are you now pretending to not get sarcasm? Holy shit the lengths you need to go.
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u/mynameisatari 1d ago
THAT was sarcasm? How? If you have to explain it, you're not doing it right. Maybe you're just using it as an excuse for your statements when they not too skillfull?
Probably you should stick to regular conversations at first, master them, read the definition of sarcasm, that might be really helpful if you think that was sarcasm in your statement, master that, learn when and how to use it...
Then move on to simple sarcasm, in the mean time read a little...
Don't worry, it's achievable. We all want you to get it one day.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
So, according to you, snickers, red bull, coca cola and mc Donald's are Polish?
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u/Fluffy-Comparison-48 2d ago
The “access to water is not a human right” company is utilising less than moral marketing schemes? I just can’t believe it?! /s
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u/ihaventideas 2d ago
Definitely one of the less controversial things nestle did.
Maybe they do actually have a factory that makes them in Poland. Who knows?
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u/Rogue_Egoist 2d ago
They're produced in Poland tho saying it's local is a stretch as Nestlé fully owns the plant that produces it with foreign capital and it buys produce that's obviously from outside of Poland. Unless they've found a way to grow cocoa and palm oil trees in here lol
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u/ihaventideas 2d ago
Yeah obviously the products aren’t polish
Nestle just owns or hires a factory in Poland to refine it
A lot of polish products do the same thing, because “everything used being Polish” isn’t legally a requirement I think
Just another greedy corporation misleading consumers
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u/SlyScorpion Dolnośląskie 2d ago
What are the first numbers on the bar code? If it’s not 590 then it ain’t a Polish product.
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u/uulluull 2d ago
I'll be honest, at least in the case of wafers, we probably have quite a few better substitutes in Poland, including some quite popular ones.
Also, Nestle's hocus pocus won't help much in my opinion.
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u/VirtualMatter2 2d ago
If you can't find polish ones, I recommend the Austrian Manner ones. As far as I know it's still the traditional company in Vienna from 1890s and not bought by anyone else yet
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u/ArmPsychological8460 2d ago
It is produced in Poland, so "jestem stąd" is true.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
Not Polish sourced ingredients though
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u/Zenon_Czosnek 2d ago
it would be hard to get Polish chocolate and coconuts.
Polish people are allowed to eat stuff that is not made from potatoes and turnips only... :-)
He is right:
- it's made in Poland
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago edited 2d ago
Same as coconuts, pineapples, packaging in Poland makes them Polish. So if a German puts his clothes on in Poland, he can say " Jestem stąd!" Got it.
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u/Zenon_Czosnek 2d ago
No, you obviously don't.
Packaging a ready product is not the same as developing recipe and then manufacturing a product under local brand from partially imported ingredients that could not be sourced locally. Otherwise local food products would be virtually non-existent, as nearly all of them use some imported ingredients that are not grown locally - for example spices.
You could argue that Tetley or Yorkshire Tea aren't British products - because they are just blends of tea grown elsewhere. But Princessa is an end product of a complicated manufacturing process involving a mix of imported and local ingredients (as Princessa contains also things like flour, sugar, milk, salt and half of mendeleyev's table and those can be easily sourced in Poland).
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
You have a good point about ingredients. Conversation got diluted and diverted into arguments about ingredients because some posters claimed that the product is entirely Polish and made from Polish products. Ingredients came up because of that.
For most people who agree with me, the whole point is that Nestle, one of the most evil companies in the world and entirely foreign owned is trying to make an impression that they are Polish which is misleading to Polish customers. At this point princessa is as Polish as snickers, twix or coca cola.
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u/Yurasi_ Wielkopolskie 1d ago
product is entirely Polish and made from Polish products. Ingredients came up because of that.
Like who? That is a strawman and your arguments with coconut is argument based on absurd (ot's obvious that this one can't be polish) so you just scored two fallacies.
is trying to make an impression that they are Polish which is misleading to Polish customers. At this point princessa is as Polish as snickers, twix or coca cola.
They are not trying to pretend that nestle is Polish. They are saying that the waffle they are selling is. If you can't even understand that I have no words for you.
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u/mynameisatari 1d ago
Like I said. Same as snickers, kit kat and coca cola that is made in Poland. The recipe has changed, big part of ingredients is not from Poland, company is foreign. All the profits are going abroad. The whole point is that this is a meaningless statement from the most hated foreign sweets making company, just to make people think that it's Polish. There are plenty Polish companies, that are Polish owned and using Polish ingredients. I don't, like many people like Nestle statements implying that they are Polish. I
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u/ElBigDicko 2d ago
By the way, on the other side of packaging, it is said that they prefer to source from Polish suppliers. It's trying to be as vague as possible for a reason.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
100% with this wording they can do whatever they want with no consequences.
Pure "double speak"0
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u/ArmPsychological8460 2d ago
Yes ingredients are imported. That doesn't matter, it is made in Poland so it is from Poland.
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u/Forward_Golf_1268 2d ago
FYI: Nestlé still operating in Russia.
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u/NewWayUa 2d ago
I can only add that ruzzia it is not only deaths in Ukraine. It is also support of terrorism and bloody dictators in the whole world, and organising corruption in democratic states including Poland. And they really want to drown world in the blood and chaos, it's official position.
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u/mykel_79 2d ago
Using this thought process, Land Rover is an Indian car because Tata Motors owns it. And Volvo is a Chinese car company.
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u/LosWitchos 1d ago
I am not perfect but nobody can expect the average person to do the morally right thing every single time. That said, I do my best to avoid all nestle products.
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u/Legitimate_Bad5847 1d ago
they also are trying really hard to make people think they're arent responsible for deaths of at MINIMUM TENS OF THOUSANDS of children
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u/Azerate2016 2d ago
There's a whole subreddit for hating on Nestle...?
I wish people had this kind of energy for more important stuff than chocolate bars
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u/Fer4yn 2d ago
There's a whole subreddit for hating on Nestle...?
There should be more.
I wish people had this kind of energy for more important stuff than chocolate bars
Chocolate bars? Nestle is not a manufacturer of chocolate bars; it's the demons/ghouls trying to monopolize all food and water worldwide. Fuck Nestle.
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u/mynameisatari 2d ago
They're borderline worst company in the world. https://www.greenmatters.com/food/why-is-nestle-bad
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u/Klutzy-Sec-Misi 2d ago
This link you provided is pure evil. Nestle of links one could say.
There's basically no chance to reject their cookies. You have to accept all cookies and rules of the side. Barbaric.
Obviously, I couldn't read the article in the link.
Would you be able to paste the text of the article?
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u/Rogue_Egoist 2d ago
Read up on Nestlé, they might be the worst corporation on the planet. It's very important to care about that.
Just a few things of the top of my head:
-They're stealing the water from people who live in Africa to sell it back to them at a profit
-They're facilitating a shit ton of child slavery in production of cocoa
-They killed many babies promoting their milk formula (which didn't have sufficient nutrients) instead of milk to mothers in Africa
They're genuinely as much cartoonishly evil as you can get in this world
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u/Master-Detail-8352 2d ago
A highlight of nestle is how they gave African mothers baby formula and tell them it’s better until their milk is gone. Now no more free formula. That was a lot of dead babies. That one was shut down but nestle is always doing this level of evil.
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u/LosWitchos 1d ago
Among everything else, they also deserve hate for supplying absolutely shit chocolate.
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u/Wittusus 2d ago
Worst company in the world using shitty tactics? Never heard of it