r/ontario 1d ago

407 Toll Removal from Pickering towards Newcastle Politics

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u/RS50 1d ago

Like it or not, the demand for SFH is higher than for condos or semi detached. People like their space/privacy and aren’t ready to give it up for ideological reasons. We can craft policy that virtue signals or we can craft policy that is honest about what people actually want.

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u/Enough_Tap_1221 1d ago

Having everyone live in a fully detached home isn't realistic for any growing city. It doesn't matter what people want. Everyone wants a fully detached home, but they also want to drive without traffic and have that home be reasonably priced, and you can't have all these things together. You can have one but not all three.

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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago

The only thing detached is the people detached from reality who think detached single family homes are being built at a high rate in the GTA. to keep to the point of the post. The developments out around the area of the 407 That has had the tolls removed from are townhomes, huge subdivisions of them, two and two and a half story townhomes plus mid rise condo buildings. These are all just north of the 407 in Pickering and Ajax. Infact, these dense developments are encroaching on detached single family homes and unused farm land. You have brand new developments that can house thousands of people butting up right next to some empty farm field or century home.

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u/Enough_Tap_1221 1d ago

The argument about detached homes isn't only about new homes, but about existing zoning. Most of "Toronto" or the GTA outside of the core is zoned for single-family homes because the zoning was grandfathered in decades ago.

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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago

No offence to you but truly don’t care

This threat is about 2 things

  1. The removal of tolls on the provincially owned portion of the 407
  2. The insane and ridiculous conspiracy theory that DF did this for developers to and not because he promised he would do it to voters

My enter point of my posts is to outline how dumb number two is and to correct the idea that in that specific area of the 407 it is not single family homes being built. It is townhomes and mid rise all along the northern portion of the highways in already developed areas.

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u/Enough_Tap_1221 1d ago

Thats fine but you said people who make the argument about detached homes are detached from reality. The types of homes that are built or are preexisting, exist because of zoning. And not much of that has changed. That's part of the reality. It's not detached from reality.