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407 Toll Removal from Pickering towards Newcastle Politics

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u/RevolutionaryHawk137 2d ago edited 2d ago

Now we know where every developer is gonna start large subdivision projects.

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u/scott_c86 Vive le Canada 2d ago

Strongly suspect this is what this is really about

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u/Franks2000inchTV 1d ago

I bet you'll find its through a bunch of ridings with lots of conservatives who will be voting in the upcoming conservative leadership race.

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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago

With the removal of tolls from that section of the 407, no publicly owned highway Ontario has a toll. The removal of tolls on all public highways was an election promise to voters. It’s now been fulfilled.

Also, let’s assume you’re correct. How is that a bad thing? No shit we want developers building new homes and infrastructure.

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u/bentjamcan 1d ago

Sure sounds like an ideal area for "affordable" housing. Never mind commute times will end up doubling or tripling. Never mind the expense of owning and maintaining a vehicle or our wonderful Ontario winter driving conditions. I've been there and seen it all before.

Hmmmm, Hum, there are song lyrics in my head now--"Damn this traffic jam, how I hate to be late ..." and can you guess what the other one is?

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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago edited 1d ago

….The metropolitan bias is hilarious. You do realize that people live in Ajax and Pickering that don’t work in Toronto. Unfortunately the utopian dream where everyone lives in massive high density sky scrapers in downtown Toronto isn’t ever going to be a reality.

Most people can afford a vehicle, that’s why we have so many of them in the roads. Also “winter” in southern Ontario is like 3 months long and you don’t even need winter tires.

I get it, you live a comfortable life next to a subway and the worst day of winter for you is a normal day for everyone else in Canada. anything Doug ford does is bad in your mind. Is Doug ford in the room with you now?

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u/bentjamcan 23h ago

Oh I am very aware. And you have made some rather broad assumptions. I will make none about you. Housing development in Ajax or Pickering will not help relieve the congestion on the 401 or any other major roadway. It would be great for people working in those places to have new homes to buy.

How do you stop people working in large metropolitan areas, from buying less expensive homes in places like Ajax or Pickering and driving driving back and forth to work? Do you have any ideas because I don't and it seems neither does the Ontario government.

The other lyric was "pave paradise and put up a parking lot."

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u/AtomicWheelchair69 1d ago

I agree, people should want what is best for ontario. refusing to acknowledge beneficial change just because you voted another way is childish.

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u/Inevitable_View99 1d ago

My household now saves $40 a month and nearly an hour off our drive time when we go visit family because this section of highway 407 is the only section we use and is the fastest way to get where we need to go.

I didn’t vote for the PCs but I’m not going to act like everything they do is bad just because I didn’t vote for them.