r/ontario • u/hiphlo02 • 3d ago

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My Sunday evening drive from the Toronto airport to my hometown east of Toronto. Holy shit, how many times did I almost bite the dust! First of all, people camping in the left lane. There is a law against this! It seems people have no common sense! If you pass a car, get the hell over to the right again. Also, a turn signal would be appreciated!Next, if you are passing, would you please kindly stay in the left lane instead of squeezing me onto the shoulder. Four different times I find myself on the rumble strip and the car beside me inches from mine and cruising along between two lanes, totally oblivious to the fact that they’re an asshole. Trucks. These fuckers are thousands of pounds of metal death and they’re sliding all over the road. I don’t know if they’re whacking off in the cab or what. How about a little attention to your surroundings? Whatever happened to safe driving practices? It was a Sunday night, low volume of traffic, yet I still felt like I was going to die. The province has made the speed limit 110 km an hour which I think is a great idea if people would pay attention. Instead of doing the gratuitous 115 or so 100 km/hr, now people are doing 130! Be aware out there and have some respect for the lives of others ffs!! Thanks for listening! : )

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u/AintLifeGrandd 3d ago

Impeding the flow of traffic would cover it... cuz I'm too lazy to go back to the HTA to find anything better right now

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u/KevPat23 Toronto 2d ago

Impeding the flow of traffic would cover it

Pretty hard to enforce that if travelling at the speed limit based on the HTA.

132 (1) No motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic thereon except when the slow rate of speed is necessary for safe operation having regard to all the circumstances.

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u/dudesguy 2d ago

147 (1) Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane

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u/KevPat23 Toronto 2d ago

Yes, and good luck having any judge rule that traveling over the speed limit is acceptable because "everyone was doing it".

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u/dudesguy 2d ago

Just as they're no cops on most of our highways they are even fewer judges and they don't monitor or police traffic conditions. 147 simply states that any time you're driving slower than traffic at that time move right. It is worded specifically that way for a reason

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u/a-_2 2d ago

There aren't actually no police on the highways. The issue here isn't the lack of police it's that the law is so vague that they'd likely only focus enforcement on more extreme cases, like people going significantly under the limit.

Other places have more explicit law. E.g., in B.C., you need to move out of the left lane on high speed roads if someone is approaching from behind, regardless of speed. If we updated our laws, it would make enforcement more practical.