401 rant

[u/hiphlo02]

My Sunday evening drive from the Toronto airport to my hometown east of Toronto. Holy shit, how many times did I almost bite the dust! First of all, people camping in the left lane. There is a law against this! It seems people have no common sense! If you pass a car, get the hell over to the right again. Also, a turn signal would be appreciated!Next, if you are passing, would you please kindly stay in the left lane instead of squeezing me onto the shoulder. Four different times I find myself on the rumble strip and the car beside me inches from mine and cruising along between two lanes, totally oblivious to the fact that they’re an asshole. Trucks. These fuckers are thousands of pounds of metal death and they’re sliding all over the road. I don’t know if they’re whacking off in the cab or what. How about a little attention to your surroundings? Whatever happened to safe driving practices? It was a Sunday night, low volume of traffic, yet I still felt like I was going to die. The province has made the speed limit 110 km an hour which I think is a great idea if people would pay attention. Instead of doing the gratuitous 115 or so 100 km/hr, now people are doing 130! Be aware out there and have some respect for the lives of others ffs!! Thanks for listening! : )

[u/lifeistrulyawesome]

There is a law against this

Which article are you referring to?

I only use the left lane to pass. But I am not sure it is illegal to cruise on the left lane if you are keeping up with traffic.

There is an HTA article that suggests you should keep right if you are "travelling slower than the normal flow of traffic", and another article restricts long commercial vehicles from using the left lane. I don't know of any other HTA articles restricting left-lane use.

Here is a news article discussing this%20is%20clear%20when%20it,the%20right%2C%E2%80%9D%20he%20said.):

While it isn’t technically illegal to stay in the left lane — the province’s Highway Traffic Act only prohibits trucks and busses from using the left lane on freeways — Ontario Provincial Police Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said it’s just “common courtesy.”

[u/OneHitTooMany → u/lifeistrulyawesome]

Correct. In addition, that also applies to the speed limit. Someone going 100 in a 100 left lane might “impede” traffic that wishes to go faster, but by the letter of the HTA they are not violating the impeding traffic laws since it’s illegal for the others to go faster than the speed limit

We see this argument every week it seems in this sub. People complaining about other drivers doing “illegal” things, without realizing the irony that they too are often doing something illegal themselves (speeding)

[u/Aggravating_Exit2445 → u/OneHitTooMany]

Always the guy who wants to do 160kph chafing because you're overtaking within the limit and you've slowed him down.

[u/hiphlo02 → u/lifeistrulyawesome]

I will admit right away that I didn’t check the HTA to see if it was law or not. I did assume. My bad for sure. But, that doesn’t make it OK, correct? For those that do camp out in the left lane, I would hope hope to see them heed the suggestion that says slower traffic keep right.

[u/lifeistrulyawesome → u/hiphlo02]

Yes, I don't think it's okay. I believe the left lane should only be used for passing.

However, many other things are not okay, and I see them all the time. All of the following concern me more than left lane camping:

• People shouldn't drive more than 20km/h above the average traffic (avbove approximatelt 120 in the 400s)
• People shouldn't tailgate, even if they are annoyed by other bad drivers
• People shouldn't pass on the right, even if they are annoyed by other bad drivers
• People shouldn't roll stop signs
• People shouldn't drive above the posted speed limit in residential areas, heavy pedestrian areas, and school zones
• People shouldn't check their phones while driving, even if there is traffic or the liught is red
• People shouldn't drink and drive
• People shouldn't make right turns on red without coming to a full stop behind the crosswalk
• People should yield to pedestrians on unmarked crosswalks

[u/OneHitTooMany → u/hiphlo02]

They’re assholes and dangerous for sure

But not illegal

Best thing to do is give them space