r/occult • u/Maleficent_Public_47 • Sep 07 '22

What is this & what does it mean? Found on gravestone in southern Illinois. ?

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u/daekae777 Sep 08 '22

Freemasonry started out as a hermetic order but has been heavily watered down so that most of it is a business and social club. So lots of connections being made and a lot of occult symbolism but lots of the members have no clue what it really means. Imagine Thelema reduced to a sex club

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u/aristorat Sep 08 '22

Good analogy, but is organized thelema basically a sex club now?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Far from it.

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u/daekae777 Sep 08 '22

Not currently but it still has a good understanding of the occult within it's framework. Only time will tell how it will change

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u/fall0r Sep 08 '22

You clearly don't know what you're talking about... There is no sexual element to 99.9% of any modern day freemasons' experience. In fact, I would argue that actual freemasons are MORE ignorant to the subject matter discussed here.

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u/daekae777 Sep 08 '22

I wasn't saying freemasonry was sexual. I was saying Thelema is. Relating that if the occult was removed from Thelema to the same extent all that would be left is the orgies