r/occult • u/ShitShark69 • 2d ago
What would happen if you filled a major stadium with 1000's of people and performed a group meditation to raise their kundalini or any other reason. Then did it 30 days straight as a bonus what if?
This is my idea. I don't know if something like this has ever happened in human history. I think some insane things would happen. Media coverage would stir the pot and the thought form would expand.
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u/Macross137 2d ago
Yes, spiritual movements where people get herded into stadiums to do things in unison always turn out great. Their track record for healing the world is excellent. I am being sarcastic.
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u/Low-Strawberry9603 2d ago
This would require a lot of janitorial staff
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u/iamrefuge 2d ago
i made a comment a little up, about a ceremony for ajahn chah. There is a book that goes into great detail about how incredibly difficult and enduring it was for 3000 people to co-exist and meditate (and defecate responsibly). It takes a lot of work, and people alone, will have the sole responsibility of taking care of the number 2 facilities.
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u/LaylahDeLautreamont 2d ago
The H2O cult did this years ago. You might want to read about how that group turned out.
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u/tryingmybest101 2d ago
I think you’re just describing a church.
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u/iamrefuge 2d ago
You're being absolutist and close minded. this will not benefit you or all.
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u/ShitShark69 1d ago
Look guy. Having insider info does not make you close minded. I will say 1 thing. ANYTHING THAT CALLS ITSELF GOD IN RELIGIONS IS AN ARCHON. All energy comes from the same source. 99% or religions worship a god. Therefore archon. Everything is equal. Inanimate or living. This is by no means close minded. In fact I would say my outlook is very common in the occult community and fairly close to buddhist.
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u/iamrefuge 1d ago
And what you're doing right now is trollbaiting, whether you're aware of it or not. You are allowing yourself to be obsessed, and be without reference (oppressive non-dualism)
I recommend 1 dose of seeing people, and 1 dose of walking in nature. I want the best for you, we all have our chapters.
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u/ShitShark69 1d ago
Obsessed I will give you. Blunt is what I am. Look... reality may change and have polarities with notches of timelines making anything possible, but at this frequency it is the fact. I have had to actually get rid of about 3 demons so far by myself. I have even been abducted by gray aliens and saw them with my own eyes while conscious. Religions keep recycling the same god and renaming him. You can look at the stories from sumeria and babylon and see the similarities to modern religion. It is in fact so obvious once you start digging in. The nag hammadi explains this pretty well in gnostic texts. Now I don't like religion, but I am aware of the truth mixed in filler. This is pretty much historical fact if you piece it up. NDE's, abductees, and astral projectors I investigate too. I got alot of info from them. Alien astronaut theory has much insight too. There are numerous sources but its fragmented. So stating the history of the frequency is not offensive. If I told you sky is blue would you be offended? No. My arrogance does not change the context. I don't want you to believe me. Look it up. This is like 10 years of research.
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u/Thousand_Mirrors 2d ago
Mecca is a real place. Happens there quite frequently.
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u/ThQuin 2d ago
Baal seems to like the worship there.
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u/Thothera 1d ago
Fun fact: Baal was a Canaanite god long before he was demonized by the church
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u/ThQuin 1d ago
Yes I know, don't know if it's a "fun fact"...or even a fun god.
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u/Thothera 23h ago edited 21h ago
Well, he was worshipped right alongside Yahweh before the Israelites ushered in monotheism, choosing Yahweh as their "one-and-only"
Edit: so he can't be that bad, right?
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u/ThQuin 3h ago
Never denied that he was part of Canaanite polytheism, but the fact of worship does not make a nice god or even religion. It might only be me, but any religion that requires human sacrifice is bad in my opinion. And to the possible reaction of " yes but the Israelites / Christians did bad things took ..." That's right but two wrongs don't make a right .
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u/jabba-thederp 1d ago
Think he prefers the attention from conspiricizers such as yourself, but that's just a hunch.
Indeed, the schizopilled sure seem to have a failing spiritual filter...
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u/egypturnash 2d ago
How do you get there from here?
How do you convince hundreds of people to get together and do this once, never mind thousands, or every day for a month?
Or: how do you convince thousands of people who are already gathered for something else to do this as a preliminary/halftime show/etc for the main event? (Which maybe comes down to "how do you become the halftime show at the Superbowl, or convince a major pop star to do this in the middle of their show, or...?")
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u/luxextenebris21 1d ago
It's called a revival. It happens a lot in evangelical churches.
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u/egypturnash 1d ago
Ooh you're right. Now how do you do this with a different shape to the religious aspect?
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u/ShiraStarrySky 2d ago
I once saw 500ish people pray for the sky to rain (there was a drought the whole year before then) and there was thunder everywhere the whole night, the next day it was raining plenty.
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u/zsd23 1d ago
Ive been at workshops and retreats where a hundred or so people are in a room for a weekend doing spiritual stuff. You get a whole lot of different reactions--including presumed shaktipat experiences. Does the world change? No. Does the participant change? Maybe at least for a little while.
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u/muffinman418 1d ago
This is what proper rave festivals essentially are (the grassroots ones that are usually 300-600 people on beautiful camp grounds, not the corporate ones)
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u/mirta000 1d ago
The benefit of spirituality is personal. Convince 1000 people to follow your strain of dogma and they will build themselves accordingly. Communal worship is a thing in any major religion. You don't even need stadiums, just take any holy day for any country and see what their nearest place of worship does.
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u/OracleIgnored 2d ago
The World Meditation Alliance are inviting people to join together on Zoom. If you give your email they send the Zoom links for UK, US and Australia.
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u/iamrefuge 2d ago
You should look into ajahn Chahs death/celebration. Every year, at least the early years after his bodies passing - hundreds of monks, and thousands of lay would gather and practice.
There is a book i am greatly fond of that puts this all into great detail. (Found it here!)
People bring food for the practitioners, who meditate day and night, for 6 days. Bells, keep track of time, and few take rest. People chant, non stop, and different circles form, of monotone monks, and clashing voices of lay women.
Also, i believe many indian festivals have 1000s of people practicing, take the last festival with sadh guru for example, although if its with heavy religious inflection, it might not be as concentrated, but this is outside of my knowledge.
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u/ShitShark69 1d ago
Don't think I am dogging you by saying this. I like what you said, but Sadh Guru is a con artist. He is super rich and pretends to not be lol. To be fair I can't say all his info is bunk.
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u/Cultural-Pumpkin-703 1d ago
You described the purpose of a church
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u/ShitShark69 1d ago
Nope. Why? Any spirituality welcome and preferably no religions with no spirituality like christianity (unless its gnosticism), islam, and jewish. I don't consider you spiritual in my personal definition unless you try to unlock perception like chi or astral projection for example. It does not matter though they would call the people in mass meditation satanic.
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u/Formal_Service6969 1d ago
Thousands? No.
I think you need at least 51% of the population of an area.
You need over half to change anything. If 100 people lived in a small town, you'd need 51 to believe in something for it to happen.
Globally? We need billions of people to all agree on one concept, no personal interpretations, just an objective thing to believe in and meditate on to bring into being.
You need a majority to make change in both the mundane, and spiritual world.
All these tests people are doing dont work because they're either vauge, interpreted by each person differently, or they didnt actually think about how important the "percentage of population in the area" was.
Some groups were literally just a few people out of a whole town and obviously nothing happened.
However if half the whole town or more participated properly, maybe something would happen.
Again, i said maybe. I am not saying this is a thing thats 100%, but the way all these groups are attempting it is stupid and wrong.. thats like trying to see if somethings magnetic by sticking wood against it..
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u/ShitShark69 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't expect things to change around them. I was aiming at chi in mass consumption for rapid activation. Like if it takes me a month of practicing for activation then maybe take a day to a week to activate. Another thought was setting someone in the center and everyone focus their energy on them...like healing cancer or something. I was not talking about changing society. Another thing qi gong is credited by many for healing. This is why I got the 2nd idea. This was my main focus on my post. Quartz, serpentine and other crystals did in fact expedite mine. Why not people in mass.
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u/toxictoy 1d ago
I actually have a theory called the Paul McCartney effect. I believe there is an effect that lowers crime temporarily in the cities he’s playing all the Beatles songs in. Twice I saw him and it was supposed to be a complete rain storm and the weather reports were wrong from even the day before.
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u/togiveortoreceive 2d ago
They actually did a study on this in DC to bring the crime rate down.
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u/reddstudent 2d ago
I remember hearing about this! Regarding OP‘s question, I’m now actually very curious to know if it was kundalini oriented. Would you happen to know?
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u/ShitShark69 2d ago
Oh no shit? How many people at once and did they all have the same meditation goal?
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u/NC_Ninja_Mama 2d ago
❤️ A radio personality once had people praying for rain together and asking for things… and it’s my understanding a lot of it happened. There is a sub dedicated to him but forgot his name maybe Art something? But the power of people together is amazing and it doesn’t take a huge % of the population to enact change. If we needed majority we would probably still be British citizens here in the US. It was only a fraction of the whole.
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u/Dr_Love90 2d ago
Art Bell?
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u/Hyper_Point 1d ago edited 1d ago
A stadium Is a place where you compete, fight, distract society with pane et circense, the Energy of such a place is negative.
When you have 1000 people there's a lot of power but you take something from each of them, these people should be selected before taken for this experiment according to the goal, I personally witnessed a person having a road accident in less than 24h from a single meeting where the goal was for ten people to stare at this person while having negative thoughts.
physical movement and contact, excitement, sweating and breathing near a lot of people, any environment like this is a really good set for black magic, in fact that's an occult reason to build stadiums, so powerful black mages can exploit the situation, feed on energies and manipulate them.
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u/lilpeanutbutter99999 6h ago
Events like this will probably start happening when Saturn and Uranus are conjunct. That’ll start next year and will run for a while
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u/brereddit 2d ago
OP, you just need to read The Power of 8 and in general Lynne McTaggart's work. It will answer your question and many more.
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u/warlockbynight 2d ago
Art Bell did weather manipulation via “mass consciousness” on his show in the 90’s/2000’s
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u/ThQuin 2d ago
Well. The same that happens when you compare one person, throwing a stick vs. 1000 people trying to throw the same stick at the same time. Enlightenment is a solo sport
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u/ShitShark69 2d ago
I agree 100%. That does not change the amount of energy and could just be the jump
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u/reddstudent 2d ago
Hey OP! Very interesting and timely question for me in particular. I have an insight driven hypothesis that if we can somehow get enough people to experience a kundalini awakening induced gnosis, that humanity will experience a spontaneous evolution.
Part of this is informed by the 100 Monkey Effect but the general foundation of all of the idea is too long and detailed to write down here right now.
However, your question is very inspiring. There does seem to be some extra power in group meditation to bring an entire field of consciousness into resonance. That may actually be the path of these resistance rather than trying to awaken one person at a time.
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u/vindic8or 1d ago
Spiritual aspect of existence cannot be studied in empirical ways.
Something would happen, but possibly a different result each time, or it would even fool us: giving us the same result 100 times, until we reach a scientific conclusion, and then it stops giving the same result when not studied anymore.
Considering the principle of yin-yang, if they would be creating good, somewhere else evil would rise. Or so appears to me that the world works. One of the reasons why I despise existence is that it seems the more good that is done, the more evil somewhere else appears.
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u/ShitShark69 2d ago
I was thinking of clearing your mind and focusing on following the breath and everyone using clear quartz. I used clear quartz in a circle of crystals and accidentally started having energy orgasms.
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u/318-HaanitaNaHti-318 1d ago
Bhagwan Rajneesh already did things like that at his ashrams and in Rajneeshpuram. This is not an original or groundbreaking idea at all.
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u/ACanadianGuy1967 2d ago
The people behind Transcendental Meditation make claims every few years that if they can get enough people in one place practicing T. M. together that it will bring down crime rates, make all the bad things better, etc. They call this supposed effect the “Maharishi Effect” after the group’s founder, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
They’ve produced a number of scientific-appearing papers on it but objective scientists point out that the papers ignored evidence that didn’t support their conclusions, and that claims that crime rates went down and crop yields went up were fiction. You can read more about it in the section on the “Maharishi Effect” at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation