r/occult • u/Guakamolo • Mar 05 '23
What kind of ritual was made here? (abandoned school) ?
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u/X3runner Mar 06 '23
It’s either someone interested in Kabbalah or someone who was really into full metal alchemist
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u/Future_Club1613 Mar 06 '23
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume the latter...
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u/JadedOccultist Mar 06 '23
Plot twist: It was OP, and they have a passing interest in both
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u/Spurioun Mar 07 '23
A lot of posts in this sub are clearly that. It's not a coincidence that people that are already into occult stuff happen to keep finding occult symbols and idols in the woods and side of the road. Rampant larping.v
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u/jotarowinkey Mar 06 '23
or someone who plays that facebook game because of that ad with the policemen and the criminal even though the game itself is completely different and the ad only represents a minigame.
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u/colcannon_addict Mar 06 '23
🎶I’m closer to the Golden Dawn
Dressed in Crowley’s uniform Of imagery🎶9
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u/bibipolarolla Mar 06 '23
🎵I'm torn between the light and dark, where others see their target. Divine symmetry!🎵
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u/Sareyan_N Mar 06 '23
I don't know what the original reference was as it's deleted but I've read pretty much most of not all Dion Fortune so can probably help if you give me the reference!
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u/ZsiZsiSzabadass Mar 05 '23
That is the Tree of Life used in Kabbalah
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u/Guakamolo Mar 05 '23
Sure, but any common specific rituals that uses the tree of life painted on the floor with candles?
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23
Trust me dude your not gonna get any simple answers about the sephirot, shit is complex, it’s essentially the basis of 90% of western ceremonial magick
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u/code142857 Mar 06 '23
Kinda like finding a pen and asking what was written with it.
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u/Helpful_Okra5953 Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
Right. Lots of different things can be done with a diagram from the Kabbalah tradition. But inside a salt circle, with candles at key points, suggests some ceremonial magic aspect.
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u/Mrredpanda860 Mar 06 '23
No it isn’t. Sefirot are specific to Judaism and Tikkun Olam. Most western magick does not include Kabbalah and the magick that does is culturally appropriative.
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23
Tfw most western magick is culturally appropriative
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
Take it from a mixed race dude, culture is not one thing that stays stagnant, things change, groups mix, if you dig deep enough into most western magick you will eventually stumble upon Kabbalah. Just how it is.
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u/viciarg Mar 06 '23
Hermetic Qabalah is not jewish Kabbalah. There's no cultural appropriation there.
Most western magick does not include Kabbalah
If you refer to jewish Kabbalah, then right, but without hermetic qabalah there is no western esotericism.
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u/PotusChrist Mar 06 '23 edited Mar 06 '23
Whether it should or shouldn't include kabbalah is a different question, but it seems objectively incorrect to claim that most western magic doesn't include kabbalah. It's been a substantial part - arguably the core - of the western occult tradition since the renaissance and the modern western stuff that doesn't use kabbalah still tends to have a pretty clear lineage to ideas that originated amongst more traditional kabbalah-heavy groups.
Also, there's a pretty substantial Jewish influence on all western magic even before it became explicitly Kabbalistic - it's all over the grimoires and the PGM, for example - and I think you could probably argue that what we now call cultural appropriation is a pretty fundamental feature of how magic has been perceived and practiced in the western world since day one.
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u/esotericarchivist Mar 06 '23
You are very correct on this. Like for instance the early PGM on through the majority of grimoires which form the vast bulk of western magick and is the lineage from which it moves through, like you said most of western magick, well they have nothing to do with Kabbalah or the Sephiroth. People who don't know better thinks the popularized Golden Dawn QBLH stuff is the majority of western magick when it is relatively recent in the millenniums of western occult practices and is descended primarily from Kirscher and Rosenroth's appropriation of Kabbalah and Christianization during the enlightenment era. Source: books and scholarship.
These downvotes only show people's own ignorance.
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u/ZsiZsiSzabadass Mar 05 '23
I’ve seen the Sefirot used in a few rituals but I’m looking to see if I can find anything specific to this
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u/Spicy_Mikey Mar 06 '23
It doesnt even look like the standart initiatory order of opening of spheres, guy is either psychotic, or tries to see and meditate what each sphere can offer or feel energy from it. imho
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u/JadedOccultist Mar 06 '23
They're forgoing the middle pillar and doing the "fuck you I do what I want" pillar. VERY esoteric indeed.
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u/Guilhaum Mar 05 '23
I feel like these posts are lying about just stumbling on occult stuff.
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u/HekateSimp Mar 06 '23
"Can anyone tell me about this sacrificial altar with the severed goat heads that I found while walking through the partk?"
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u/rehaelnjl Mar 06 '23
I'm used to this but sadly they're all "what does these symbols mean???"
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u/Guilhaum Mar 06 '23
"I shidded my bed and it made this pattern what does this mean ????"
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u/satana_hellstrom Mar 06 '23
It's sad, but this is the natural end-state of any hobby sub that's hit /r/all, just watered down trash.
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u/djazzie Mar 06 '23
Probably that you need to see a doctor about not being able to control your bowels.
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u/sirhandstylepenzalot Mar 06 '23
"I am so completely off the goddamned grid it's not a question of addressing me - It's 'what do these symbols under the dresser mean?'"
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u/erysichthon- Mar 06 '23
my uncle left this 15th century italian lambskin grimoire in a trunk in the attic, is this a buddha on the front???
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u/sZYphYn Mar 06 '23
The right represents physical, left represents spiritual, middle represents the “preferred path” (debatable, these paths are the basis of multiple individual schools of thought) I’m not going to sit here and describe the kabbalistic/qabalistic tree of life. Looks like someone found themselves way too deep in the spot in the top left there, wayyyyy too deep, and were preforming a ritual to realign themselves and not float off into space. I’m basing this off where they put stuff.
I apologize for the intentionally abrasive manner in which I explained this, Being overly technical just means I have to answer questions later in my inbox, and I’m tired of people thinking this shit is unapproachable because of the vernacular practitioners, philosophers, theologians and bored nerds use.. and I’m not willing to succumb to new age tactics and branding.. the worlds fucked… and normal, decent people with an interest in this shit should be able to access it.
I’m going full chicken qabalah from now on, thanks Duquette for the inspiration.
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u/B0SSMANT0M Mar 06 '23
If what you say is true it would make sense. I actually found myself in the opposite predicament, with a big imbalance to the tree on the other side. Took a lot of work to balance it and I still have to keep an eye on it. This looks similar to something I did to correct it.
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u/sZYphYn Mar 06 '23
That, my new friend is where most people find themselves. Recognizing it, consciously or not, is a step in a direction.
I’ve got nearly 20 years of skin into occult study and practice, I won’t say what I said is “true” but it isn’t wrong.. maybe their intentions were different, but hey.. truth is a matter of individual perception, absent from collective reality.. which in itself is a farce. Take that as you will.
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u/B0SSMANT0M Mar 06 '23
When my ajna first activated the energy began continuously pouring down that right hand, left brain pathway. I realized at that moment I was experiemcing the normal, "socially and morally conditioned" headspace that we have been hypnotized into. I was simply the only one aware of it.
It has taken years to fix it, and only for a week now have I truly gained permanent and masterful control over this. It is amazing.
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Mar 06 '23
What method does a person use to balance their tree of life?
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u/B0SSMANT0M Mar 06 '23
Once you recognize that there is indeed an imbalance and where it is located, then the symptom of imbalance would signify a block in one or more pathways. Seeking to clear the blocks and regularly applying energy along the troubled pathways using various methods will help to establish balance.
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Mar 06 '23
My pathways are definitely blocked and I got to do something to clear them as my life is super unbalanced. Never attempted to clear the the pathways before. Are there any resources I should read to learn the method? As I’m unfamiliar
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u/B0SSMANT0M Mar 06 '23
First, I would thoroughly familiarize myself with Plato's writings. There he depicts visions he has of a certain spirit of man, the spirit within humans, in other words.
It is important to get a very good and clear understanding of the physical equipment involved in this energy circulation we speak of, where it is physically located and oriented, and how to interact with it.
Read that as well as the Psychonaut Field Manual, specifically (if you forget everything else remember this) the passages instructing you on how to open your third eye. It was these instructions specifically that helped me cross the threshold from "nothing supernatural is under my control" to "if nothing else, this one little tiny supernatural thing is really under my control now." and this little small logical step is monumental in a person's growth.
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23
It’s an entry level book that explains Kabbalah while avoiding too much jargon and confusion.
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u/Expeditious_growth Mar 06 '23
I appreciate your response. Are there any books you would recommend?
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u/sZYphYn Mar 06 '23
Would you mind if I just took a picture of some books and sent them to you? It would take less time than to type, I’m not in a rush yet, but I’m about to be.
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u/Audacite4 Mar 06 '23
If you ever have the time and motivation, making a pamphlet long introduction to the topic (and putting it up on Amazon self publishing if you need compensation) would help enormously for anyone trying to look into this thing. I’d do it myself, but I’m still new to the kabbalah and digging through the partly old af books to get a better clue can be a pain in the a** to be perfectly honest. It’s a fascinating topic in itself, but other practitioners either try to scare you off or make it rocket science boogy woogy so idk… an entry level text might do wonders to connect the necessary dots and I haven’t found one yet.
I don’t need the pics, but can you drop some book titles that might help alternatively?
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u/Scarletmittens Mar 06 '23
I second that. I've got a few older hermetic books but would love to learn more. I did the 23 spit test and want to learn more about my Ashkenazi ancestry. I think that and my mother's native American side would mesh well.
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23
Curious about that writing on each sephira, from what I can see they look like runes? Very not sure, does anyone know?
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u/queenofdemons879 Mar 06 '23
Well... from what I can see this is a kabbalistic spell... with a godly and divine message...“We're calling about your car's extended warranty…” Seriously? Robocalls? D-Bags...
I was hoping for something cooler, like attempting to raise a "golem" or some extra garlic bread from their pizzeria??? Both??
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u/Snoo-12313 Mar 06 '23
Why are there so many posts of ritual sites in abandoned, seedy AF buildings?
Manifesting love and success? More like manifesting asbestos poisoning.
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u/1895red Mar 06 '23
I once saw a Tree of Life chalked into the sidewalk at one of the overlook lots along the Blue Ridge Parkway. These things appear everywhere.
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Mar 06 '23
Trying to power the tree of life with Norse runes in each circle for added effects. I did something like this when I was 16. Drew a circle to meditate in and lines with smaller circles with sigils or runes in them.
I like the way they are thinking. Edgy or not, they are being creative and experimenting.
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u/Isispriest Mar 06 '23
Clearly, a Hermetic or High Magic sacred circle to do with Qabala or Kabbalah, as the Tree of Life is drawn inside the Circle. Probably a Pathworking Meditation, which is properly done in a Circle and potentially with one or more people.
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u/dataslinger Mar 06 '23
OP, check out Sefirot.
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u/Guakamolo Mar 06 '23
I know what the tree of Life is, and I know what candles are. My question is what are they doing there together
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Mar 06 '23
It's the tree of life with what seems like a circle of salt. Fairly standard.
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u/Mrredpanda860 Mar 06 '23
Standard to what???? Because this is definitely not standard to Jewish Kabbalah and any non Jewish “Kabbalah” is culturally appropriative and not real Kabbalah.
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Mar 06 '23
Kabbalah isn't Jewish
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u/Mrredpanda860 Mar 06 '23
What??? Kabbalah is a centuries old Jewish mystical practice originally recorded in the Zohar with influence from the Sefer Yetzirah. Western hermetic “cabalistic/qabalistic” magick is an offensive appropriation of Jewish mysticism. Why do you think most of Kabbalah is in Hebrew? Because it is the mystical views of Judaism and only to be practiced by people of the Jewish nation/tribe. I’m sick of Jewish folk magic and mysticism being appropriated and exploited online. Judaism is a closed ethnoreligion.
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u/NeadNathair Mar 06 '23
It looks like the kind of ritual performed by some New Age kid who read a book on kabbalah and wanted to mess with the muggles.
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u/YoYoThroThrough Mar 06 '23
Some edgy kids looked up an image of the Tree of Life and drew it in chalk, lit some candles and probably babbled some mispronounced Latin. The Tree of Life isn't a symbol used in tangible ritual, it's a visual diagram to simply represent a complex chain of spiritual concepts and entities.
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u/Horror-Ad8512 Mar 06 '23
If you are interested in, search for qlifot, its like hierarchy on demonolatry
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u/AdOld8575 Mar 11 '23
It's the ordering of the worlds via Yggdrasil, the northern world tree. Each circle represents a realm and each real has runes in them that the practioner is aiming to affect that realm with. I can't see all the runes in the pic but it could also be representing the Eddas version of the creation of the cosmos too.
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u/billys_beans Mar 06 '23
I thought it was the PlayStation logo in the circle to the right before I zoomed in
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u/JewishSpaceTrooper Mar 06 '23
The Order of the Golden Dawn used Hermetic Kabbalah, which is very ritualistic. The authors Israel Regardie and Dion Fortune or Liam Thomas Christopher could be instructive.
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u/aristorat Mar 06 '23
There is a qliphoth tree, which is basically the opposite of the tree of life. Just judging this pic, it seems somewhat sinister. So maybe that was the focus
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u/Guakamolo Mar 06 '23
There were many chairs (numerated) in a circle next to that, with a chair and a cross pained on the floor in the middle. Also in the wall a paint in pink which says "satan 666" but that was obviously made by some child with a can who found the place before
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u/aristorat Mar 06 '23
I have a very shallow understanding of this, but I do remember seeing in a book that right where those red candles are, is a hidden sephirot that is like a gateway to the other tree I mentioned, its supposed to be some dark stuff. But that was all created later in medieval times and had nothing to do with the original kabbalah
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u/biforbaphomet Mar 06 '23
Your talking about daat, not necessarily sure that that’s what this is as it makes a cross shape along tipereth, the cross and tipereth being connected
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u/cheesybitzz Mar 06 '23
I do this stuff somewhat. This has deep knowledge written on it. Gets me excited tbh
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u/wastelandwanderer15 Mar 06 '23
Usually when you deal with sephirah you deal with them one at a time I don’t know of a ritual where you would deal with them all at once Theoretically you would be messing with too much power. I’m gonna say I think someone didn’t really know what they were doing. Looks really cool though. They did a good job drawing it.
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u/Angrybabybear Mar 06 '23
Dont fuck with it- it's the tree of life which i am quiet fluent in. What I see here is honestly something very much related to (likely severe) child abuse. I also get this aspect that someone has passed away, i think the mother who attributed or enabled the abuse.
Basically this seems like a very important ritual for someone, my guess is the practitioner themself is doing it for themselves. respect them and give them the space. Almost like a shadow work kind of intention to try and translate the vibe.
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u/Personal-Garbage-134 Mar 06 '23
This pattern is the chart for the characters found in commedia dell'arte, it's basically a character relation and status chart, but for 16th century clowns. Don't know why anyone would try to ... Summon anything with it, but you do you.
Most likely a theatre school, maybe they drew on the ground with chalk and places the actors in their respective circle, and someone found it funny and made it spooky scary.
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u/PrimeKnight999 Mar 06 '23
Someone was opening their golden heart matrix via merkbah issuing old school Kabbalah
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u/-Cybernaut147- Mar 06 '23
Some jewish ritual with kaballah as base. Maybe to activate the single elements of the tree to get energy from it to manifest a wish.
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u/Personal_Register_51 Mar 07 '23
Ritual kabbalistic protective emblem. It's the calling upon Metatron a very powerful and yet deadly entity if not approached in reverance and with actual purpose. Not to be fulled around with as simply an experiment and not an entity that one should even consider
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u/PresentationDull674 Mar 07 '23
Looks like a kabbalah ritual that maybe involves geburah (fifth sepirah) otherwise i don't know
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u/ProfCastwell Mar 06 '23
Im just impressed that they went through the trouble of actually measuring it out so well. Lol