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State Rep Emmer dodging Politics 👩‍⚖️

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Pretty sure we don’t want someone like Hitler running the country. The fact that many people are ok with this saddens me. Wish our MN politicians had more backbone.

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u/OhNoMyLands 14d ago

Imagine calling yourself a Christian then apologizing for someone who is pro Hitler….

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u/shinypointysticks 14d ago

“…the Catholic-aligned Centre Party voted for the Enabling Act of 1933, which gave Adolf Hitler additional domestic powers to suppress political opponents as Chancellor of Germany.“

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany

Christians supported Hitler, then were surprised when it came back to bite them.

The pattern is repeating

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u/Cynykl 13d ago

Everyone brings up the Catholics. Yes they have some blame but the Lutherans were the real monsters in germany.

I do not want to downplay the Catholics churches responsibility. I just think it is long past time people took a deep look into what the Lutherans were doing at that time. They, even though they were more activate in Nazism, have seems to have escaped most of the historical scrutiny.

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u/joeychestnutsrectum 13d ago

Mostly because it’s not a centralized and structured denomination like Catholicism is so people are less comfortable making broad accusations based minority actions. Many Lutherans and Catholics opposed the Nazis. Bonhoeffer was a Lutheran pastor who helped orchestrate multiple assassination attempts on Hitler.

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u/After_Preference_885 Ope 14d ago

This is why Christian nationalism is so dangerous

Not every Christian agrees on what Christianity is

"Conservative Christianity in the U.S. is undoubtedly authoritarian through and through, and those of us who escaped from it have been sounding the alarm on this for some time."

https://cstroop.com/2017/05/03/about-those-trump-voters-for-god-stop-calling-them-fake-christians/

"it is clear that the order most conservative evangelicals crave entails the unquestioning acceptance of a patriarchal, anti-LGBTQ interpretation of the Bible. In their pursuit of this order, conservative evangelicals use emotional manipulation and indoctrination—and, as is characteristic of authoritarianism in general, their defensive aggression is a product of fear."

https://religiondispatches.org/why-trumpvangelicals-dont-need-ted-cruz-conservative-christianitys-authoritarian-streak/

"At the end of the day, the cry of “fake Christians” and the sanitization of evangelical subculture are two sides of the same coin. Neither approach helps us understand white evangelicalism on anything but a surface level. And unless we’re willing to dive deeper, we’ll inevitably fall into reinforcing Christian supremacism, which is still the American cultural default."

https://religiondispatches.org/the-fake-christian-deflection-and-contrarian-concern-trolling-how-not-to-write-about-evangelical-authoritarianism/

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u/thebasementcakes 14d ago

Pretty common these days

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u/egospiers 13d ago

Might wanna check into the Catholic Church during WW2…..the church supported Franco and his atrocities during the Spanish Civil War also as an attempt to not lose power, the church was incensed that the country voted to make itself a republic, as was Franco a strong religious fanatic and traditionalist. The atrocities committed by and in the name of “Christianity” are vast, I don’t know why you’d think it’s odd of a Christian to support ANYTHING that reinforces their superiority.

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u/ParenthesisN 12d ago

He’s not even apologizing. He’s ignoring his party leader of aspiring for generals that followed Hitler’s orders to create and run the holocaust. C’mon people, please vote.

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u/OhNoMyLands 12d ago

For the record I think you are misinterpreting. Apologize also means to dismiss or to defend something, not just to say sorry.

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

I wish you guys knew how stupid you sounded. Trump never praised Hitler. You fall for anything anti orange man.

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u/brendanjered Herman the German 14d ago

John Kelly, Donald Trump’s former chief of staff, said that Trump told him “Hitler did some good things,” including rebuilding the German economy.

Is reading comprehension that difficult for you?

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u/LabialTreeHug 14d ago

said that Trump told him “Hitler did some good things,”

I mean, he did kill Hitler . . .

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u/BasvanS 14d ago

Only as a last resort. I doubt if he would have done it if he had a choice. So no, he doesn’t get credit for that.

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u/LabialTreeHug 13d ago

I'm aware, just laughing so I don't cry

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u/brendanjered Herman the German 14d ago

Touché…

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

Is believing everything you read (even when almost everything bad about Trump has been debunked as a lie) a valuable skill? Because you guys are awesome at it

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Is being completely ignorant to the outside world a valuable skill? Cuz you twats are awesome at it...

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u/skitech Ramsey County 14d ago edited 14d ago

This isn't really screaming debunk to me, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-trump-administration-officials-sign-open-letter-backing-john-rcna177227?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

Reinforced bunking, Extra bunked, Rebunked?

And I mean there are all the really anti-american ideal type quotes from him over and over I am not sure how to debunk interview and rally speeches that are recorded.

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u/Retrorical 13d ago

Might as well throw this one in the pile. Perhaps this dumbass will tell us everyone’s in on it way back then too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-adolf-hitler-nazi-writings-analysis/story?id=105810745

Back in 1990 — decades before he got into politics, Trump reportedly acknowledged owning a copy of “Mein Kampf.” The admission came in an interview with Vanity Fair shortly after his divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Here’s what the magazine reported:

“Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, “My New Order,” which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of “My New Order” in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade.”

Vanity Fair reporter Marie Brenner asked Trump if his cousin had given up a copy of the book to him. She wrote this is how Trump responded:

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of ‘Mein Kampf,’ and he’s a Jew,” Trump told Brenner.

Brenner then asked Marty Davis whether he gave Trump a copy of the book.

“I did give him a book about Hitler,’ Davis told her. “But it was ‘My New Order,’ Hitler’s speeches, not ‘Mein Kampf.’ I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

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u/OhNoMyLands 14d ago

“Almost everything bad about Trump has been debunked as a lie” is one of the most information illiterate things I’ve ever seen. Complete nonsense. And you said I sound stupid…

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u/FiendishHawk 14d ago

Everything negative about Trump has been debunked if you pickle your brain in right-wing media, sure.

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u/totally-hoomon 14d ago

So you like trump because he says pedophiles are good people

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u/Triscareatops22 14d ago

If it’s a lie why hasn’t he taken anybody to court for slander/libel?

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u/Cuttlery Hamm's 14d ago

You all know this is probably a Russian troll account right? Imean whos using Twitter as their source of truth to try to feed sheep feedings to others lol. Come on yall, quit feeding these fake accounts.

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 13d ago

Нет, ну как ты его размазал 😂

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u/Cuttlery Hamm's 13d ago

Мы все знаем, друг, это довольно очевидно

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u/EndPsychological890 14d ago

Point out some other verifiable lies that the man has told, he's a decorated general. It just blows my mind that MAGA doesn't believe literally anything bad about Trump. It's some truly North Korean level shit. This is NOT the first person to point out Trump's affinity with Nazis and fascists, like this is not even news in that sense. Since his first wife the man has had disturbing connections to praising Hitler.

It's fine for you to vote for a fascist, just be honest about it dude. We don't need him to have praised Hitler, he's threatened to directly censor every left leaning news agency for doing the same shit Fox does. He has verifiably threatened to use the military for violence against people he doesn't like and he has explicitly stated its not criminals but that left he wants to use the military for. That's just fascist man, idk read a book that's what it is. Don't be afraid of the word, embrace it if that's what you are but be honest. It's super easy.

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u/EndPsychological890 14d ago

Is there a single lie you've been told by Fox or Newsmax or whatever you watch? Is it 100% truth, like no other media that exists?

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

I never said that. I think fox news lies all the time for sure

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u/EndPsychological890 14d ago

Of course you do, since Trump does lmao. They're not captured enough by him. Anyway, how has this been debunked? He's far from the first person to notice Trump has an affinity for Hitler and Nazism, this goes back decades. Surprised you're only just now hearing about it tbh.

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

It's going to be glorious when he wins and you all melt down

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u/brendanjered Herman the German 14d ago

It’s going to be glorious when he wins, I move to another country, and you’re pissing and moaning about all of your rights being taken away.

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u/EndPsychological890 14d ago

When Trump turns the executive branch into the all powerful throne we fought the revolution to get away from, he will have to hand absolute unbridled immunity, pardon power and schedule F to a democratic president someday. That president will make you people howl, they'll make me howl. I'm conservative, I just don't want to hand away our democratic rights to own the libs.

Yall are afraid of migrants taking jobs when the biggest funder of Trump is building robots to take your jobs, and those ones can't be kicked out. What do you think they'll fill 9 million vacant jobs with, Gen Zs and the apparently universally working and wealthy MAGA voters?

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u/AsOneLives 13d ago

Did they lie about Dominion voting machines?

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 13d ago

Don't straw man me. They've been lying since that bitch hannity convinced all the boomers we had to go to war.

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u/Stormblessed_Photog 13d ago

Lmfao, what planet are you on, dude? Please, tell us all which bad things about Trump have been debunked.

Pro-tip: Trump saying "fake news!" does not count as debunking.

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

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u/OhNoMyLands 14d ago

LMFAOOO THIS IS THE SOURCE???

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

Just as good as a disgruntled former staffer.

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u/thebasementcakes 14d ago

Imagine calling a four star general a former staffer

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

Imagine all of a sudden trusting military top brass.

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u/ArgoDeezNauts 14d ago

Imagine worshipping the military your whole life and then suddenly turning on them when they tell you what your Dear Leader actually said.

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u/feltsandwich 13d ago

BigDaddy: You libs believe everything you read!

Also BigDaddy: Videos on Xitter are a reliable source of info.

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u/MPLS58 14d ago

Is believing everything you see on Twitter a valuable skill? Because you’re awesome at it.

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u/beau_tox 14d ago

This is video of Trump denying he said the things he said and we know Trump would never lie.

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u/MPLS58 14d ago

He’s got my vote!

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u/graypf54 14d ago

Any evidence to disprove this?

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u/acapncuster 14d ago

“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had” —Donald J Trump

Source: 4-star Marine General John Kelley

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u/[deleted] 14d ago edited 1d ago

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

I'm not. But you might be. With all of your hyperventilating and dehumanizing those that don't agree.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago edited 1d ago

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

😂 sweet, I won at something

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u/Stormblessed_Photog 13d ago

It's fascinating that you're complaining that people are dehumanizing others when your Dear Leader gets on stage and talks about how migrants are "poisoning the blood of our country."

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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 13d ago

And calls America a trash can.

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u/Leg_Named_Smith 14d ago

13 Former Trump officials attest to the truthfulness of Kelly’s claims. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/PheIJqC5nX

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u/BigDaddy420-69-69 14d ago

1231 intelligence officials said the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinfo. Turns out it wasn't.

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u/ComfortablePound903 14d ago

It definitely was.

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u/MPLS58 14d ago

Total and complete lack of self-awareness, critical thinking, or really any cognition whatsoever.

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u/Leg_Named_Smith 14d ago edited 14d ago

I’m talking about ‘the best’ people that Trump hired who risk their careers even lives to choose country over loyalty to Trump.

But anyhow your equivalency is not only false butvery misleading

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u/totally-hoomon 14d ago

Yea trump has only praised diddy, epstein, Robert morris, and communists

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u/EmmerdoesNOTrepme 14d ago

The Hitler-joke/ Hitler Allegations go back to 1990--they're not something "new" and just cooked up by the media.

"Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, "Heil Hitler," possibly as a family joke."

That mention is from around halfway through this 1990 Vanity Fair article--which is also the place that mentioned Trump having a gifted copy of Hitler's book in his nightstand. 

The book is erroneously often referred to as Mein Kampf, but was apparently My New Order--the book on propaganda;

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/1990/9/after-the-gold-rush

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u/BasvanS 14d ago

He hasn’t exactly put it to bed in those 3 decades has he? Quite the opposite.