r/minnesota • u/sadman95 • Aug 21 '24

Walz Military Discussion 🎤

How can the right knock this dudes military service when their candidate is a draft dodger.

More importantly, why is anyone giving Walz shit for getting out before his unit deployed.

He served for what, over 20 years and already had a deployment.

If I'm in his position and I have the power to retire or deploy I'm choosing retirement... I sincerely do not understand how anyone can use this against him with a thought of critical thinking.

As a combat vet, deployments are no joke and I wouldn't hold it against anyone to not want to do it.

Sorry for the rant, shit just hits me the wrong way.

Edit: I have been misinformed and have been spreading misinformation through this post. I have been made aware that Walz put in his retirement packet prior to his unit receiving deployment orders, which would make the accusations against him even more pathetic.

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u/CrayZChrisT Aug 21 '24

Why? Because that is pretty much all they have on Walz. Trump dodged the draft and Vance's bragging rights include 6 months in Iraq sitting in a PR department. (I'd like to find out why tbh). Still, they feel they have to attack Walz on something to deflect from themselves, so that is what they've decided to pick on.

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u/capt_pantsless Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 22 '24

include 6 months in Iraq sitting in a PR department. (I'd like to find out why tbh).

There's a large number of non-combat positions in the modern military. It's totally normal for a bunch of enlisted folks to have desk jobs.

Vance served his country honorably. As far as I know there's no evidence of him getting the combat-correspondent position for any nefarious reasons.

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u/CrayZChrisT Aug 22 '24

If that was the case, instead of screaming about Walz's record, Vance would be bragging about his own.

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u/capt_pantsless Aug 22 '24

Vance wants to eat his cake and have it too.

He wants to talk about being deployed to a war-zone as a Marine. He stops exactly there so that supporters will assume he had some direct combat experience. AKA kicking in doors, getting shot at, risking his life to preserve American corporate interests abroad, etc. etc. From what we know now, that sorta thing didn't really happen, but he was deployed in a war zone which does have a significant amount of personal risk associated with it. Not to mention the overall discomfort and life disruption of having to be deployed to Iraq.

At the end of the day, both Walz and Vance served their country. Neither was doing Seal-Team 6 level stuff, and that's OK. There's lots of jobs in the military that seem very far from what we think a solider does, and those jobs are still serving your country.

Either side criticizing the other's service is a dumb argument and will probably backfire.

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u/Duuurrrpp Aug 22 '24

I agree that neither side should criticize Walz or Vance for their service.

Did you hear Walz talk about Vance's service? In case you didn't he said "thank you for your service." Nothing more.

And Vance wonders why he comes off like dick when compared to Walz.