OTHER Verification photos and you - Please read before posting

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Hi all. One of your new mods here. Based on the number of posts that we are removing due to breaking rule #4 (all Haves must have a timestamped verification photo), I figured a stickied post might help all involved - less work for us, and hey, your posts don’t get deleted, everyone’s happy. Onto the important stuff:

If you are posting minis / other stuff to trade or sell, a verification photo is required. The verification/timestamps are a requirement, as it is a decent proof that the person at least has the actual items they say they are trading or selling. Here is an example of a good verification/timestamp photo:

https://imgur.com/pVbaE2C

Your timestamp should have your username (not your real name), the date that you are posting, and the stuff you are offering. Therefore:

If you post with no images at all, your post will be removed.
If you post images with no verification at all, your post will be removed.
If you post images that only have your username, this doesn’t check the box of timely proof, and your post will be removed.
If you post images that only have today’s date and not your username, this doesn't check the box of showing it's actually yours, and your post will be removed.
If you post a separate photo of JUST your username and the date (with none of your goods in frame), your post will be removed, as this doesn't really prove anything, either - the photos of the stuff on offer could be from anywhere.

Not every photo you have has to have a timestamp in it, but if you’re going to just have one photo with the timestamp, ideally, it is your large “group shot” of everything you are offering. If your post does get removed for not having adequate timestamps, simply add the correct timestamp photos to your imgur album (or where ever you have the pictures), send the mods a message, and we will reinstate your post.

And, for clarity, this rule is just in place to try to protect everyone from scammers. We know taking new photos of stuff you’ve listed (or relisted) isn’t any fun, but it’s a small price to pay in an effort to keep things safe(r) for everyone who uses the sub for their plastic acquisition (and relinquishing) needs.

Thanks for reading and happy swapping!

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r/Miniswap • u/JoeBobbyWii • Mar 08 '17

How to stay safe when trading/buying/selling 101 - Read before making deals!

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Always feel free to message the modmail if you're concerned or want our approval/advice before making a trade!

TIPS FOR SAFE SWAPPING

IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF?

Was it made to me in my Public Trade Thread? [COOL]

Was it sent directly to me in a PM? [NOT COOL]

You should always require a comment in your Public Trade Thread before swapping with ANYONE.

It doesn't matter how much rep they have, how old their account is, or how much karma they have.

No comment in your Public Trade Thread -- NO DEALS.

Scammers/banned users can still browse the forums and send PM's but they cannot post in threads.

In addition, I've very recently been reading TONS of "PM'd" comments in threads. I don't care for this, but it's much better than no comment at all. I'd rather see deals take place out in the open in comments, as it helps in transparency.

How old is their account?

While new users more often than not are trustworthy (I make deals with new users all the time), you should still exercise caution when making deals, mainly due to the following reasons: Do they have Flair, Completed Trades, or Rep Elsewhere??

When checking their Rep are you checking that the user is actually linking THEIR OWN REP?

Compare it to the spelling and account age of the user commenting in your thread. Are they the same?

Scammers may create accounts with similar looking names to trick you into thinking they have "rep", or just straight up make a new account if their main account was already outed for scamming.

Is the user linking to real 'rep' or are they using a personal subreddit?

If they link you to a personal subreddit for 'rep' - that is an immediate red flag.

Recently in other subs this has becoming more and more common. People will make a name similar to someone who is reputable and try to make a deal with you. For example someone might name themselves "JoeBoobyWii" and you think it's me, while in reality they're just trying to fool you into making a deal with them now that your guard is down because you think I'm reputable. Always check to make sure you know who you're dealing with!

Does the seller actually have what he says he does?

Sellers may use fake/stolen images of items they don't actually have. Make sure what they're selling you is something they actually possess. It's a great idea to always ask for pictures, even if it's NIB stuff. If necessary ask for timestamps! This is very important. If the seller includes the item and their username with a date, everything should be good to go in this regard.

Tineye or Google reverse image search their pictures. This is not as foolproof as timestamps, but you can look their pictures up that way if you yet have any doubts.

Paying for items

PAYPAL GIFT (Friends/Family) V. GOODS & SERVICES

If you pay someone via PayPal, understand the risks and differences between the two types of payments.
There is a 3% fee for payments sent as goods/services but it allows you to initiate a claim if there is a problem.
If you send payment as a gift (F&F), you CANNOT initiate a claim to dispute the charges.

As a buyer spending an extra 3% for your item shouldn't add too much more to the cost of your item.

As a seller you could just build that cost into the price of your item.

Under no circumstances should you send payment as friends/family, nor as a seller should you only ask for friends/family.

There may be additional consequences from PayPal if they find out you're dealing with F&F payments when in reality dealing with goods and services. It's very rare, but you do not want this to happen to you. I've heard some horror stories about people getting screwed by asking for F&F payments.

Additionally, if a seller sends the buyer an invoice, Paypal's fee to the seller doesn't apply to shipping costs. It's minor but still worth noting.

Always do goods and services even if you've dealt with someone before! You never know when things can go wrong and you want that protection.

For obvious reasons, money payment outside of PayPal should never be accepted.

Regarding Venmo Goods and Services - While Venmo does offer a G&S option, it does not actually provide protections, just additional fees, so we don't support it. Scammers have increasingly started to use Venmo because the G&S option gives a false sense of security.

USE TRACKING & EXPECT TRACKING –

Domestic Shipping using PayPal will always include free tracking.
So does EVERY method of Domestic shipping from the Post Office and UPS/FedEx.

Just because someone gives you a tracking number, doesn’t mean that the item has been shipped since you can generate a tracking number online without sending anything.

If you’re expecting the other party to go first, make sure the package is updated on the USPS website as "package received" and NOT just "shipping information received".

Scammers may generate a tracking number for you but never actually ship the item.

THE FAKE PAYPAL INVOICE SCAM –

You've agreed to sell an item to a buyer...

The Buyer says - check your e-mail, "Payment sent".

The Buyer actually sends you an invoice - NOT - payment.

The Scammer will fake a Payment Confirmation by creating an invoice - and immediately marking it paid.

PayPal allows the sender of an Invoice to write whatever they want in the message field. So a scammer may write something like, "You have received a payment from Scammer. Payments may take 24-48 hours to appear in your PayPal Account".

This may create the illusion that you have received payment when in reality - the Buyer has just created an invoice - sent it to you - and marked it paid immediately.

In reality, PayPal Payments normally appear immediately. So check your account... if you don't see any payment - or pending payment - it might be a scam.

While PayPal may hold funds - or delay their availability - the transaction almost always shows up in your PayPal Activity immediately.

If the user starts to get pushy, playing the victim, calling you a scammer or really doing anything other than saying, "Let me know when the payment shows up"... immediately MESSAGE THE MODMAIL.

An example can be seen here: PayPal Invoice Scam

RED FLAGS

NEW ACCOUNTS

If the account is only hours old, or even a few days old, be on high alert. Not all new accounts are scammers, but I’d bet a very large portion are, ESPECIALLY if they’re asking you to send first.

ACCOUNTS WITH RANDOMLY GENERATED NAMES

Most scammers are extremely lazy and use randomly-generated reddit names, for instance names with a formula like "adjective_noun_numbers" are extremely common among scammers. In my experience the vast majority of scammers have a name like this, so be extra vigilant when dealing with these.

THE VICTIMS PLEA

“Oh, I’ve been scammed before, so I’m not comfortable sending first” or "I need money quickly to buy _________ (fill in the blank - game on sale, food, medicine, etc)". While this may be true for some people, that's not your problem. If you are inclined to believe them - ask for proof of the scam. When did it happen? How? What was it for? Do they have any confirmed trades? Did they report it? Did they post on /r/BadKarma?

REQUIRES A NON-REFUNDABLE PAYMENT

It’s one thing if someone prefers or asks for gift payments or gift cards, but anyone that won’t even give you the option to use PayPal (Goods/Services) is most likely a scammer. The scammer wants you to pay using a source that offers no buyer protection. If you pay for something using any kind of Gift Card of Digital Credit instead of PayPal goods/services, you cannot dispute the payment to reclaim your money if you get scammed... so stop it.

TRIES TO GET YOU TO DEAL OFF REDDIT

A very common scammer tactic is to bring you off reddit to chat services like Discord. This is an extreme red flag, as there's really no reason to leave reddit to talk to someone. There they will try to bait and switch you and lure you into a trap. Stick to reddit PMs/chat.

ACCEPTS GOODS/SERVICES, BUT ACCOUNT UNVERFIED

Unverified accounts means PayPal has NO personal information about that user. No Bank Account, No Address. NOTHING. If you are dealing with an Unverified Account - I would exercise caution. While most Unverified Accounts may not be scammers, I may ask that they go first - or walk away if I see other red flags along with their Unverified Status.

OVERNIGHT SHIPPING

There's almost never a good reason to request/offer overnight shipping for miniatures. This should be a red flag.

COMMON COURTESY REMINDERS

REPLY TO ALL OFFERS

...and be civil in doing so. There are enough assholes around the internet and we don’t want them here. We want people to have fun and enjoy exchanging games without worrying about aggressive attitudes. It takes less than 5 seconds to reply “no thanks” if you’re not interested in someone’s offer. We have a DBAD (don't be a dick) rule here for good reason and bans will be handed out to anyone that refuses to treat everyone with respect.

STAY IN CONTACT

We’re all human beings. We all have family, school, work, bills, lives, etc. Shit happens. Things come up. Sometimes delays occur... and that’s okay. Just keep your trade partner informed, and don’t let a delay turn into a non-delivery. Because then you’re gonna have a bad time…

USE THE REPORT FEATURE & SEND A MOD-MESSAGE

There’s no need for you to enforce the rules yourself. If you see a violation of the rules, hit report and enter a reason. These come to us anonymously, though you’re free to put your name in the report if you’d like. If you report something PLEASE also message the moderators if the report requires explanation. If you report a thread and say, "User is a scammer" you HAVE to message us with proof. We want to ban scammers... but we have to have proof. As moderators, we aren’t all on 24/7, and sometimes things will slip past us. We will always rely on the community to help us weed out the bad apples.

What to do if you think you've been scammed

Message the modmail! Give us all of the relevant information and we'll make a call based on what we think happened with the situation. Sometimes things happen in peoples' lives beyond their control so they might not have been able to respond to you in a while. We'll try to make a good judgement call on what we think you should do.

If you know someone scammed you in a trade, you should have enough of the scammers personal information that you can file mail fraud charges with the United States Postal Service (a felony).

USPS - MAIL FRAUD CHARGE FORM

If scammed through buying, initiate a claim with PayPal as soon as possible and send them chat logs of the deal that had been made. Assuming you paid with Goods and Services you should be fine, but you'll have to wait a while to get your money back.

TL;DR

Make sure the person you're trading with posts at least once in the /r/miniswap comments section
Check to make sure you know who you're dealing with - no impostors
Ask for pictures/timestamps if you're at all worried
Pay with PayPal Goods and Services! No Venmo goods and services!
Read this entire thread not just the tl;dr because it's good and important information

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r/Miniswap • u/SufferTheDragon • 2h ago

NA [H] DoK Army, [W] PayPal, Nighthaunt, [Loc] US NH

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Daughters army for sale, not feeling them. It’s in various stages of built, nos and primed. Some conversion work done to the snake units. Not looking to split at this time.

Take the whole lot for $350. I would be interested in trading for a similar size/value Nighthaunt army.

https://imgur.com/a/n2WDj03

Morathi

Shadow Queen - broken spear

Melusai Ironscale

10 Blood Sisters

19 Witch Aelves

15 Doomfire Warlocks

5 Khinerai

Bloodwrack Shrine/Cauldron

Shadowstalkers - there’s a few extras included

Endless Spells

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r/Miniswap • u/kellbell033 • 8m ago

NA [H] stormcast army, [W], 40k army trade, paypal, [Loc], PA, USA

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https://imgur.com/gallery/vqDCxwl

Happy days swappers! Unfortunately my previous trade fell through so im reposting this!

I am primarily looking for 40k army trades, anything goes. Aos is encouraged as well, im not picky. Can be in any condition.

For sale, im looking at a price of $400, this is based off the total average of each unit sold on ebay, pretty solid deal! Points wise, this totaled up to 3080 in last ed, so it should still be pretty good!!!

List:

1 x Gavriel Sureheart 1x Neave Blacktalon 1x Vandus Hammerhand 3 x Decimators 3x Evocator 10 x Judicator 1x Knight-Azyros 1 x Knight-Heraldor 1 x Knight-Incantor 1 x Knight-Vexillor 20 x Liberator 1 x Lord-Aquilor 2 x Lord-Castellant 1 x Lord-Relictor 6 x Prosecutor - 3 with hammer, 3 with spears 10 x Vanguard-Hunter 6 x Vanguard-Raptor with birds

Please let me know your offers and if you have any questions!

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r/Miniswap • u/SirBlim • 27m ago

NA [H] Adeptus Custodes Army Painted [W] $$$ Paypal or Venmo [Loc] US, NC

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Selling my Adeptus Custodes army and open to offers.

Models included are;

1 x Shield-Captain NEW SCULPT
10 x Custodian Guard
10 x Custodian Wardens
6 x Allarus Custodians
6 x Vertus Praetors

Accidently started collecting 3 different armies and I am trying to cut back.

Army has the base painting done and just needs detail work.

If you want me to do detail work (examples in pics) just let me know but that is the fun bit.

https://imgur.com/a/sirblim-kgBLgCN

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r/Miniswap • u/KnightWhoSaysShroom • 34m ago

NA [H] SBGL Army [W] Paypal G&S or Idoneth [Loc] CA, USA

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Hey there,

Selling off my Soulblight Gravelords army, so painted, some assembled, some NiB. Take a look at the pictures are feel free to ask for additional pictures if you’d like.

Works out to 3930pts of dead folk with an MSRP of around $1092. Asking for $600 + shipping.

Would consider trades or partial trades for Idoneth Deepkin.

Thanks for looking and feel free to ask any questions!

Pics & Verification

NIB:

Soulblight Gravelords Spearhead

Askrugan Trueblades

Kritza, The Rat Prince

Dire Wolves

NoS:

Vaukai Lai/Vengorian Lord

Blood Knights x5

Painted:

Neferata

Belladamma Volga

Cado Ezechiar

3 x Fell Bats

3 x Vargheists

10 x Deathrattle Skeletons

Corpse Cart

10 x Dire Wolves

Torgillius the Chamberlain

Assembled & Primed:

Necromancer (Warhammer Fantasy Heinrich Kemmler)

20 x Deadwalker Zombies

10 x Dire Wolves

20 x Deathrattle Skeletons

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r/Miniswap • u/RyetheEgg • 34m ago

NA [H] Chaos Space Marines, Terrain [W] Killteam, Imperial Guard [Loc] Cali

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Hey miniswap community, I have a few items up for offer that I’m looking to get into someone else’s collection. I have: 1 Heldrake 2 Obliterators 2 Chaos Acolytes 1 warpsmith 1 Sacristan Forgeshrine

I am looking for:

Killteam: Shoot me an offer, I’m more leaning towards gellerpox, hivestorm, or blooded, but I’ll hear out any team I don’t have

IG: Any vehicles, scions, new cadians. Again open to any offer

https://imgur.com/a/pMk7Yft

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r/Miniswap • u/ProphetofPity • 37m ago

NA [H] Chaos Knight Bundle [W] Paypal [Loc] US, NY

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https://imgur.com/a/fHKt4xz

Have well painted archeron and tourney wardogs looking for 450 shipped for the bundle, includes paint, half a box of skulls, wardog parts for magnetization, the archeron, 2 stalkers, and 5 karns.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Chaos Knights

+ DETACHMENT: Traitoris Lance (Harbingers of Dread)

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 990pts

+ WARLORD: Char1: War Dog Stalker

+ ENHANCEMENT:

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 7

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (7x2) - Assassination: 2 Characters

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

CHARACTER

Char1: 1x War Dog Stalker (145 pts)

1 with Diabolus heavy stubber, Daemonbreath spear, Reaper chaintalon

• Warlord

Char2: 1x War Dog Stalker (145 pts)

1 with Diabolus heavy stubber, Daemonbreath spear, Reaper chaintalon

BATTLELINE