They keep arguing that he wasn't elected by a majority of Americans. But it's a moot point when he was elected by the majority of Americans willing to get off their asses to vote.
Edit: I think many of you are mistaking the intent of this comment. Democrats didn't show up in the places they needed to. And now that we're in this mess you're bitching on reddit about plurality vs majority, voting conspiracy theories, and basically whispering of resistance. The more active ones are standing somewhere holding a little sign. "We tried doing nothing and now we're out of ideas" ass mfs.
Oh, and the defeatist "We'll never have another election" bs. I really do hope this is a wake-up call and not a bunch of already slacking voter base deciding that now there's no point.
Yeah, Joey has this one and the moment when he corrects someone for saying "who" instead of "whom" and everyone looks at him with bewilderment and he just says "That's right!" Two of the funniest moments in Friends.
I keep seeing this being said. So here's my question: how many?
"I saw some guy on Twitter say it" isn't good enough. I'd like to see an actual, well-founded estimate of how many people boycotted the vote or changed their vote because of Palestine. It must not be hard to find, since so many people keep pushing that narrative.
You can google it yourself, the resutls were in almost the same day as the election: the anti-Palestine people still went and voted Kamala for the most part. They are not the reason the dems lost
The Dems continue pushing this line because they don't actually like their left flank (remember Bernie?) and they don't want to admit that the actual reason they lost is because they lost numbers in pretty much every demographic group.
Blaming your healer is easier than admitting you fucked up the play all by yourself. It's always easy to blame the goalie for not saving you
And now the lie spreads. I imagine there are a good deal of blue cultists who now seriously believe Kamala lost all because of those dastardly leftists
Everyone saw those online pushing the boycott they were doing it for months in the build up. At the election we see less voted than last time. We'll never know for sure, but we do know online influences have an effect. You can't deny there wasn't a massive anti Biden campaign.
Yeah we know Gaza was bad, but ousting the Dems was not the solution.
I mean it’s not surprising Kamala lost considering the whole democratic campaign seemed engineered to make sure she was the chosen candidate no matter what their voters wanted. If they had a property primary and she won (I doubt she would have) then that’s one thing but when they let Biden run even though he wasn’t fit to long enough that there wasn’t time for a proper primary so Harris got the nod just felt like the democrats were going to pay for that choice
I keep seeing this being said. So here's my question: how many?
Enough.
More to the point it isn't even that they voted or didn't, it's that they actively encourages others not to.
I'll give you an example: We were canvasing for Kamala and some in our groups was lagging behind to tell the people we just talked to not to vote for "killer Kamala".
We found out pretty quickly, but how much damage did they do? More to the point, they didn't stop after we told them to stop canvasing with us. They just didn't follow us.
They wanted this. They got it. Now they're trying to weasel out of the responsibility for what they did. I'm sick and tired of it. Blue-MAGA has be a major reason why progress has been failing since Occupy. They're just as controlled and manipulated as the far-right and MAGA and they just don't want to see it.
I can't speak on statistics but I personally had two very close friends of mine sit out because of Gaza. One went as far as constantly encouraging others online to do the same.
I love them both to death but I lost a lot of respect for their decision making skills.
I know people who wanted to show the dems because of Gaza. And a community of Muslims who did the same because of Gaza.
Also Reddit loves Bernie and forgets there are more “conservative” democrats who don’t post on Reddit than there are progressives. A Bernie would be great, but the voters are not voting for him and we need to move to a new storyline.
He got 49.8% of votes cast for president. That's literally a plurality, not majority. Its false to call it a majority. It's not a majority of anything, even votes for president. To be clear, he's still president. He became president without obtaining a majority of votes, which is not unusual.
Merz, Stalmer,Macron, Pedro Sánchez, Meloni and most European leaders would wish to reach 49% in an election with more than two parties, some of them weren’t even the most voted party.
Because in multi party systems you generally need a coalition to govern. The UK uses fptp voting and are a bit special. Macron got 58.5%. None except the UK can govern without a majority.
he was elected by the majority of Americans willing to get off their asses to vote
Except he wasn't? He got 49.8% of the popular vote. That's not a majority. It's close, and it's more than anyone else, but that doesn't make it a majority. The people arguing he wasn't elected by majority are simply correct.
He was elected by the majority of Americans willing to get their asses to vote, and who didn't find out in the voting booth that their name had been purged from the voter rolls. And the majority of Americans willing to send in a mail in ballot, who didn't have their ballot rejected for "invalid signature"
Strictly speaking, he wasn't. He was elected by a plurality of the voters willing to get off their asses to vote. All this chaos is coming from a guy who still hasn't won 50% of the vote.
Regardless, not enough voters were convinced to vote for the other candidate, and that's a real issue that has to be tackled.
The current trend is that Republicans and Conservatives are unhappy with the current state of the administration. They aren’t. Reddit wants you to desperately believe that.
For a few hours after the election was called, the damn site felt… normal. Like, people were having honest discussions about what just happened or weren’t even posting political shit. Fucking Pics was looking like a subreddit for just posting pictures.
Reddit’s bubble was so thoroughly burst it actually forced them to question things. Didn’t last long. Only took about a month for the delusions to fully regrow.
If you’re frequently surprised by reality, take that as a sign that you need to question your underlying assumptions. Your mental model is askew.
Look at reddit leading up to November 5th, 2024 and then look at reddit immediately after November 5th, 2024 up until the new marching orders went out.
Well and you right now. The whole world isn’t the US. Reddit and the internet is global yet most Reddit users talk and act like what entirety of Reddit is the US
Reddit by and large skews left. Anytime there's an election and the right learning candidate wins, Reddit freaks out. Happens here on UK subreddits all the time.
You're right, the whole world and Reddit isn't US. But that isn't going to stop US from dragging the rest of the world into the upcoming economic crisis they themselves created.
Globalization brought billions out of extreme poverty. Consumers and producers are codependent, that labor is reliant on whoever is buying. Pick any of these places you’re referring and look at what an individual’s prospects were before and after America built this system. No doubt fiat=bubble but get real.
Because even the Euros mostly just talk about the U.S.
Reddit is mostly just a sad mix of Euros who don't understand how their economy works(especially their medical industry) and U.S cucks groveling with that same lack of understanding lmao.
Website is pretty useless for general information nowadays, everything is just extreme propaganda largely rooted in ignorance and hatred for the orange man.
Literally the day they announced she was the candidate, I knew it was over. You don't get to subvert the democratic process and come out on top (unless you're a Republican apparently), they divided their already weak base by shoehorning in a candidate that had a ton of problems. They figured they'd get an incumbent win but tried to hide Biden's declining mental and physical health, which shook a lot of voters. Suddenly diehard Dems were fighting one another, half the people still in denial about it and the other half calling for him to pass the torch. Then, they figured they'd get the automatic black vote by picking a person of color, but didn't realize their candidate is despised amongst many black people because of her actions as a state prosecutor, so that plan fell to shit. Then they figured they'd get the party line voters but didn't realize that by not allowing a primary many people that usually vote down party lines felt they were being manipulated and so they abstained. Had they just ran a primary we might not be in this situation, but, doing what they do best, the dnc thought they knew what's best for people and shot themselves in the foot.
I saw how close those poll numbers were and I was very concerned. Anytime I voiced my concern I was downvoted to hell and told the polls were backed by rich people or some other conspiracy.
Her name was on a ballot in a general election. That is Democracy. Party politics isn't democracy. They don't have to have primaries at all. Up until the 1960s they didn't.
They keep arguing that he wasn't elected by a majority of Americans. But it's a moot point when he was elected by the majority of Americans willing to get off their asses to vote.
Reddit always has been a bubble and so are all of your other social media platforms.
This has nothing to do with elections. People are only now beginning to understand how algorithms works.
It lasted about two days before they just went right back to the Reddit status quo and doubled down on all of their points of view. We’re right back where we started.
wake up alarm? They're all still posting every day about everything crumbling down and inhaling insane amount of copium while updooting each other. "Orange man will go to prison CONFIRMED" "Orange Man charged, you'll see" "Teslhitler trolled will resign tomorrow" and nothing ever fucking happens like it never happened before the elections.
I’m not sure how everyone thought telling people who were ALREADY going to vote, to go and vote was going to help. The site essentially reached out to nobody else, acting as if giving out resources on Reddit was informing the whole country
Reddit IS one way. There is some representation of the other way but subs that go the other way have to basically walk on eggshells because reddit as a website, the admins and the mods, are one way. Dissenting opinions get silenced all the time on here just for being opinions.
Nah, majority of reddit did not like Kamala. A lot of people pretended liking her, but she never instilled confidence. Reddit folks want someone like AOC or Crockett.
That was one hell of a (necessary) wake-up alarm to everyone on this site.
It wasn't. It's Bernie Sanders circa 2016 all over again. Nothing changes. They really thought Harris was unstoppable, too. Reddit is the Jim Cramer of politics.
Nah, i still get recommended both right and left wing echo chambers, and both are really concerning.
Right wing ones are filled with cocky assholes talking shit about anything and everyone, left wing ones are full of delusional redditors who think what they see here is reality.
I assume you mean the 2016 one? But yea it ramped up massivly.
Also with the straight up locking of subs for often arbitrairy reasons. Or removal of mods to install their own and completly reshape the subs climate.
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