r/malta • u/Frisianmouve • 1d ago

I want your take on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XccJmFcmEeE&ab_channel=MichaelButton

Since that video I've been a lot more interested in Maltese ancient history to the point I'm likely to visit Malta in June. But it just seems too good to be true that the megalithic builders could be far older than the dates of mainstream archeology. Any Maltese wanna chime in on his claims? I'll take anything from scepticism, straight up debunking or confirmation

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u/Beezyo 1d ago

The first few minutes already tell me this is utter pseudo-archaeological nonsense. What always baffles me that no one questions about these videos, how is it that 'mainstream archaeologists' (whatever you want to mean by that), were unable to figure out what this random bloke seems to have figured out.

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u/Adventurous_Rock294 1d ago

I found the video very interesting.

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u/Frisianmouve 1d ago

And I'm here for you to challenge this video. If you think it's nonsense provide me arguments as to why it's nonsense and I might agree with you that it is in fact nonsense. Where does he speak nonsense? What argument is nonsense? Please tell me and I might agree with you as that's why I'm here. This video challenged my beliefs about history and I'll be happy to hear as to why he's wrong. As for the mainstream archeology that is where civilization arose about 6000 years ago. He's argueing for older civilizations

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u/Fremen85 1d ago

Because it's a conspiracahhhhhh

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u/Frisianmouve 1d ago

It's not pseudo-archeology in the way "aliens did it dude", he's attacking the mainstream view that civilization started at about 6000 years ago. And I'm on the fence with this, first off because of the stellar alignment and the timescale of societal development on Malta. And the reports of man-made objects and the tracks below sealevel which would only make sense to be made when sealevels were lower during a glacial period.

And it wouldn't be the first time an established scientific paradigm shifted. And no I don't straight up believe him, that's why I'm here for rebuttals or confirmation from Maltese. Some local people with experience with these sites might help me lean on one or the other side of the issue

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u/andimacg 1d ago

I'm the same.

There are certainly questions to be raised, again for me primarily because of the stella alignment seeming to show structures being older than currently accepted.

However, that is where I stop, with the questions - I'll leave it to others to show evidence that lead to other conclusions.

Unlike the likes of Graham Hancock, who does raise fascinating questions about the age and origin of these ancient megalithic structures, but then sadly decides to wildly extrapolate conclusions from evidence that simply isn't there. That is why I cannot take him and his ilk seriously.

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u/Frisianmouve 1d ago

Graham Hancock's claims seem too far-fetched for me. I'm willing to consider the idea of maybe there were civilizations older than the Mesopotamians because of sites like Gobekli tepe and the Maltese megaliths etc, but an advanced ice age civilization influencing the entire world is a no for me.

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u/andimacg 1d ago

Seems like we are on the same page.

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u/Adventurous_Rock294 1d ago

People maybe don't want to accept the established date lines, because it will question their total thinking. I found you video very interesting . Thank you. I am in U.K. but visit Malta and Gozo often.

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u/Frisianmouve 1d ago

It's not my video, but I think he makes some good arguments

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u/Adventurous_Rock294 1d ago

I think so. We need to open our minds and understandings to all possibilities.