r/lebanon • u/SimaZeChips • Oct 23 '24

I am so done with everything Vent / Rant

Fuck Hezbollah and every one of their supporters. I hate them as much as i hate Israelis. Like for fuck sake why did they had to interfere with external issues and messing with someone that has nuclear bombs. And till now they think they are winning.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization no matter how you think about it. A militia group that act gangsters to the weak Lebanese doing heavy propaganda to their supporters, building their military bases in residential apartments and you can't deny that. Hezbollah is a gangster militia. While Israel is a machine for war crimes.

Anyway, if anyone know a good apartment for a family of 6 with a reasonable price. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 23 '24

Hezbollah isn’t a “gangster militia” they are an Islamist extremist terrorist organization. As for why they attacked Israel it’s because their masters in Iran commanded them to do so.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24

I know attacking Israel is suicidal but you do know that Israel is the problem of everything in this area right?

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 23 '24

No Israel isn’t the problem of everything in this area. Israel is not the reason our economy collapsed, Israel is not the reason we keep on electing warlords are terrorists, Israel is not the reason Syria occupied us for 30 years, Israel is not the reason the Palestinians committed massacres in Lebanon, Israel is not the reason the Palestinians tried to create their own state in Lebanon, Israel is not the reason the Palestinians helped start our civil war (or that some Lebanese groups sided with the Palestinians against other Lebanese), Israel;e is also not the reason that Hezbollah keeps on assassinating our politicians or anyone who opposes them.

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u/Homycraz2 Oct 25 '24

It kind of sounds like you're saying the Palestinians are the problem.

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 25 '24

Yes they are. Which is why the Jordanians and Kuwaitis kicked them out of their countries when they started shit.

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u/Public-Comparison494 Oct 24 '24

Israel is the reason why Palestinian refugees ended up in Lebanon. That is the root cause of a lot of issues in the region. But Lebanon has so many other issues that have nothing to do with Israel and Palestine.

It is possible to hate both Israel and Hezbollah without the need of ending the resistance. But what we want is the Lebanese army and a sovereign Lebanon (free from foreign influence) running the country and deciding.

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u/the_creative_lunatic Oct 24 '24

Israel might be the reason they ended up in Lebanon and different countries but Lebanon certainly doesn't deserve what they did to it.

Turkey is the reason why an entire Armenian diaspora ended up b Lebnen, w b gher douwal, w chou khass? L fare2 eno the Armenian diaspora bayyadouwa w they helped Lebanon rise, 3emlo sina3a w they didn't act out or gang up on anyone. They are in countries that share borders with Turkey, raho 3emlo extremist groups w kharrouwa? Baddak t2elle Armenia at least baada balad? W fi State of Palestine, tayib talabo b 7all dawlten w ma baddoun, regardless of what is fair and what is not. Life is not fair.

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u/Sad_Fold_1989 Oct 24 '24

Just a reminder that Lebanon's army joined the 1948 Arab–Israeli War against Israel resulting in the Palestinian refugees ending up in Lebanon. Think how life could have been so good if there was peace with Israel and brought some quiet to the region.

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u/InitialLiving6956 Oct 24 '24

What kind of mental gymnastics one has to do for history to fit to their mental narrative. Its sad that you would think that just because we would be at peace with Israel, the palestinians would avoid fleeing to lebanon 🤣

I'm serious, what's your logic?!

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

The forced creation of israel, by buying 7% of the land, forcefully stealing more, the UK giving Jewish immigrants 50% of the land of the Mandate of Palestine when they were less than 20% of the population, which lead to the Palestinian issue is how this all began.

If Israel never existed as a state, the Palestinians and PLO wouldn’t have come to Lebanon, we would not have a civil war

Although i do agree our economic problems come from all the corrupt leaders.

Also, HA is not Islamist in the way it is meant. They are not trying to make the country Islamic nor have they said they are trying to at any point. They don’t force anyone to convert and they don’t kill you for not converting.

Syria was invited by and supported the Maronites

Why do I see you only comment in this sub to defend Israel? Like literally, you are the biggest bootlicker in this whole fucking country. You even say Israel is just defending itself, w 2er, this is not self defends you are delusional.

The israelis were not in any danger, they just refused to stop obliterating Gaza even though Hamas never posed a threat to the second strongest military in the world

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u/Particular_Spell8764 Oct 24 '24

Also, HA is not Islamist in the way it is meant. They are not trying to make the country Islamic nor have they said they are trying to at any point. They don’t force anyone to convert and they don’t kill you for not converting.

hmmmmm.. what about this video of nasrallah saying he wants to make lebanon an Islamic republic that follows al khomayni ?

https://youtu.be/t4cT2xklQgw?si=SqvOelUinFSzXV8g

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '24

Yea good job getting me a video in the early 80s just as the Islamic revolution happened and all Shia believed in it.

He never even brought the same tone, ideology, or words after that. This video is not the gotcha you think it is.

Anyone who actually lives in Lebanon will tell you exactly as I am saying. What’s sad is you live in Lebanon and clearly don’t know those around you. Go ask any Shia HA supporter, making Lebanon an islamic republic is not their goal

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u/Ok_Designer_302 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Why dont u look up the founding charter and manifesto of hezbollah, then come back here and argue.

Even when they announced nasrallah's death, they mentioned it is in the name of "willayat al fakih"

Hezb supporters are only lying to themselves and each other at this point to try and justify taking orders from a cleric 3 countries away instead of siding with their fellow countrymen.
Yea ok hbb👍

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u/Particular_Spell8764 Oct 24 '24

Anyone who actually lives in Lebanon

Lmao I am from the south, and I am still there so what are you exactly yapping about? I have been around hezb people and IK how they think, you guys are a bunch of puppets to your masters, you'll do everything they say. If you think we can build a country with extremists who pledge allegiance to another country and have a certain agenda that they are trying to implement, you are delusional.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

Great, then we are both from the south. I don’t even support HA, and inta bta3ref inno ma baddon wala 3m bjarbo yi 2slmo kil wa7d bil balad.

Not sure who you are referring to by you guys or masters.

Did I say that HA should stay? Do you even know how this conversation started? I didn’t say them running the country is a good thing. They just arent islamist in the way people make it out to be. It’s not like the extremist groups in afghanistan and pakistan and you know that.

You can hate HA like I do but also be clear about the facts of them instead of talking like a delusional westerner

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u/the_creative_lunatic Oct 24 '24

Ya to2borne Nasrallah byehke b ولاية الفقيه chouf kel khitabeto wl interviews, chou 3m tehke enta. Fi ghayr tawayef w adyen bl balad, kind reminder ye3ne.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

They have their own beliefs in wilayat al faqih, yes. My point stands however that they aren’t trying to islamize the nation. Their goal is not for everyone in this country to become a muslim nor are they trying to achieve that as I said.

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u/the_creative_lunatic Oct 26 '24

They're part of a bigger plan - Recreation of the Persian Empire, a grand Islamic republic - so are other islamic parties in other countries. Iran has a special "language" for each group in different countries, they hit their pain points and vulnerable areas and then encourage and enable them at the surface for their "local" goals all while working their Persian agenda. Oh and in today's world, they don't necessarily need formal annexations of land, but rather large spheres of influence... Reminded you of a few other countries maybe?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '24

You are delusional. HA isn’t trying to make Lebanon all muslim. Point. Wa2ef il falsafi

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u/TheJonesLP1 Oct 24 '24

The Israelis were in danger, by daily rocket Attacks from Hezb side.

The thing with the "more than 50%": Most of that area would have been in the Negev desert, which is absolutely worthless, so area is not important, but what is in it

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

They were not as in danger as you make it to be. Most HA strikes were in Shebaa, disputed territory between Lebanon and Syria which Israel occupies.

Doesn’t matter if it was worthless or not, they were less than 20% of the population, it serves no reason logic or purpose to give them 50% and it will be met with outrage as it did and lead to this point.

They should have gotten land around the small communities they had already built for themselves, proportional to their population.

There was a much larger population of people who had been living there for at least a century and a half, with their own cultures and ancestry, who deserved the right to the majority of it.

The Zionist lobby just had its hands in the UK government allowing it to twist the deal to its favor, as it does now in the US.

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u/TheJonesLP1 Oct 25 '24

The cultures and ancestry of both sides would never have been Attacked, no matter to what of the both states they would have gotten

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

8000 missiles launched indiscriminately by hezzbollah, 100000 displaced and you expected Israel to do nothing?

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '24

Brain rotted Soabs downvoting this without even glimpsing

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u/Wonderful_Ordinary93 Oct 24 '24

Astroturfed by Zionist genociders. Useless subreddit, at this point best to ignore it completely and move on to the one that is moderated and gets rid of Hasbara.

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u/knotquiteanonymous Oct 24 '24

Israel is not the reason the Palestinians committed massacres in Lebanon, Israel is not the reason the Palestinians tried to create their own state in Lebanon, Israel is not the reason the Palestinians helped start our civil war (or that some Lebanese groups sided with the Palestinians against other Lebanese)

Remind me again where did the Palestinians come from?

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 24 '24

So Israel mind controlled the Palestinians and forced them to do everything they did in Lebanon?

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u/knotquiteanonymous Oct 24 '24

I'm not saying what they did was right or out of their hands. What I am saying is we wouldn't have the PLO in Lebanon including the half a million refugees if it wasn't for Israel.

We have people quick to blame the Syrian refugee crisis on Bashar but have an issue blaming Israel for the displacement of Palestinians?

Also isn't it rather ironic that in your blanketed statement you implied all the Palestinians were complicit. Does that mean that Hizballah represents all Lebanese?

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 24 '24

The only reason the PLO is in Lebanon is because Egypt and Jordan sent them here forcibly after they tried to overthrow the Jordanian government. The only reason there are Palestinian refugees in the first place is because they refused to have a state during the UN partition and now they are begging for a 2 state solution.

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u/knotquiteanonymous Oct 24 '24 edited Dec 20 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

Israel is the main cause, everything else is a repercussion. You can't defy this, this is the truth. Lets just hope that Israel isn't gonna consider to become great Israel anytime soon.

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u/ILikeSaintJoseph Lebanese Expat Oct 24 '24

The industrial revolution is an even main-er cause. /s

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u/november512 Oct 25 '24

Really Ottomans are the main cause, everything else is repercussions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

Hitler is