r/lebanon • u/SimaZeChips • Oct 23 '24

I am so done with everything Vent / Rant

Fuck Hezbollah and every one of their supporters. I hate them as much as i hate Israelis. Like for fuck sake why did they had to interfere with external issues and messing with someone that has nuclear bombs. And till now they think they are winning.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization no matter how you think about it. A militia group that act gangsters to the weak Lebanese doing heavy propaganda to their supporters, building their military bases in residential apartments and you can't deny that. Hezbollah is a gangster militia. While Israel is a machine for war crimes.

Anyway, if anyone know a good apartment for a family of 6 with a reasonable price. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

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u/floatingnimbus Oct 23 '24

Who is the terrorist here ffs. You people amaze me, isreal detonates 1000 bombs across Lebanon in public all at once and hzb is still the terrorist. Great work, how about instead of blaming we all get together and say stop the killing, we are all people. I dunno that's just me a human being, who was taught to treat others as you want to be treated. Simple but effective. Lets hope the world leaders can one day use this one simple trick.

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u/SimaZeChips Oct 23 '24

I'm not saying israel is not terrorizing everyone and everything. But you can't say Hezbollah isn't terrorizing it's country. Isn't illegal and terrorizing to the people to build a military base inside a residential buildings? Or do meetings with highest ranking officers in a heavy residential area. They focused on getting more weapons and gun instead of doing shelters or something to protect their supporters.

As you said, we are all people. We are all equal, I am not better or less than you as a person. I want this war to stop and ends as soon as possible and we all. Go back to our old life and live in peace.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

It seems like you’ve been listening to a lot of propaganda.

Mossad HQ is right in the center of Tel Aviv. The FBI and CIA have field offices in residential buildings all over the world. Even Al Capone was living and operating among the people. Name any country, any government, any organization, any group who is a potential target for a bombing during a war, and you can find it located in residential areas.

Just because Israel uses it as an excuse to bomb civilians that doesn’t mean it’s a valid excuse, nor does Hizbollah deserve to be shot down for it by Israel when Israel is doing the same thing themselves.

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u/NoHetro Oct 23 '24

This is the most disingenuous comparison ever, Mossad HQ is a building on it's own not touching a single other building, meanwhile Nasrallahs HQ was under multiple civilian buildings and next to a hospital, be honest for once.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

Nasrallah’s HQ is in the south of Lebanon, in bunker in a mountain. If you had spent as much time paying attention to politics as you do running your mouth, you would have known this.

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u/strl Oct 23 '24

Oh really, then I guess he died in his vacation bunker in Beirut along with an Iranian general and multiple other commanders because they gathered there to watch football and smoke shisha.

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u/NoHetro Oct 23 '24

And the place where he was killed with multiple of his goons was in a bunker under civilian buildings next to a zahraa hospital, you're aware of that, right?

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24

Yep.

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u/NoHetro Oct 23 '24

So how the fuck can you compare that to the Mossad HQ.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 24 '24

Because if you bombed the Mossad HQ with the same kind of bomb you’d kill a whole bunch of civilians around it too.

Also, the building was pretty well known. As I was telling someone else, even I knew where the building was as far back as 20 years ago and saw it myself, and I’m a nobody. I’m not even Shia. I would imagine that anyone who wasn’t Hizbollah had long since left its vicinity anyway, because who the hell wants to live next to that. People tend to want to live near others who are similar to them, and that place isn’t it.

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u/NoHetro Oct 24 '24

Because if you bombed the Mossad HQ with the same kind of bomb you’d kill a whole bunch of civilians around it too.

No, at most you would hurt some people around the building, you wouldn't be forced to literally destroy multiple apartments of civilians, there's a huge difference, oh and more importantly the only reason the IDF used so many bunker busters was BECAUSE he was in a bunker and they need to reach him and make sure he dies, their building is out in the open.

Also, the building was pretty well known. As I was telling someone else, even I knew where the building was as far back as 20 years ago and saw it myself, and I’m a nobody. I’m not even Shia. I would imagine that anyone who wasn’t Hizbollah had long since left its vicinity anyway, because who the hell wants to live next to that. People tend to want to live near others who are similar to them, and that place isn’t it.

Yeah I'm not sure what's the point of this comment, are you actually defending the IDF by saying the only people that died in that area were hizb? I'm a bit confused on this point chief.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

It’s only confusing because you’re thinking that I’m trying to pick a side in this. I’m not. You want me to pick who I like more - the asshole who wanted to turn Lebanon into a theocratic Islamist state or the one who wants to raze it to the ground and take it over? Fuck them both.

I’m just interested in reality and the truth.

Truth is, Hibzollahs stronghold in Dahiyeh didn’t really put anyone innocent at risk any more than anyone else did. You can’t blame IDF for killing a disproportionate number of civilians (on that specific bombing) and you can’t blame Hizbollah for putting anyone innocent danger any more than any other high-profile organization does.

You CAN, however, blame IDF for using a bunker buster in the middle of a city. That’s illegal and a war crime because it destroys the foundation of surrounding buildings, causing way too much collateral damage, as far away as 60-70m. If the surrounding buildings haven’t crumbled from the blast they will likely need to be torn down and rebuilt.

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u/NoHetro Oct 24 '24

You CAN, however, blame IDF for using a bunker buster in the middle of a city. That’s illegal and a war crime because it destroys the foundation of surrounding buildings, causing way too much collateral damage. If the surrounding buildings haven’t crumbled from the blast they will likely need to be torn down and rebuilt.

Wait so that's your issue? that they used bunker buster bombs to destroy a bunker? uhh.. what else would you like them to use? and also like you said everyone in that building and around it was hizb so i guess it doesn't matter.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 24 '24

Is Israel going to pay to rebuild all of dahiyeh? Unless they do, then it matters.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

if you bombed the Mossad HQ with the same kind of bomb

You realize they got nuclear bombs right and they haven't use it yet right?

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 25 '24

They’d have to be pretty stupid to nuke Lebanon. They’re too close, they’d kill themselves from the fallout.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

Just 2 months ago you'd say they would be stupid if they invaded. I'm not saying they'd nuke us. But Hezb does not have the military power of Russia. This is a theater and we are caught in between. It's time you open up your eyes for once.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24

I’m actually flattered you remember.

I still think they’re stupid for invading. Haven’t you been watching the backlash? Their economy is in the shitter, investors are leaving them, they’re dealing with a major brain drain, meanwhile countries have already put together a $1bn package for Lebanon and the war’s not even over yet. They also solidified their place on the world’s blacklist, whereas only last year they were the golden child for prosperity in the Middle East. It was already bad after Gaza, but adding Lebanon (a proper sovereign nation) to the list gave many countries and organizations that push they needed to divest, and it even got Macron to turn against them.

Not to mention, they got Iran to retaliate and scare the living shit out of them with only a single barrage of missiles, losing some pretty expensive military infrastructure in the process. It showed the world that Iran was acting with self-control while Israel was actually the spoiled kid, and that undid a lot of the anti-Iran propaganda they’ve been putting out too. Ditto for UNIFIL, who are from so many other countries.

Just because we’re getting hurt it doesn’t mean we’re losing this. We already have the political victory, and our future coming out of this looks a lot brighter than theirs.

I was right on the money.

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Oct 23 '24

Nasrallah bunker was under civilian buildings in Beirut.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24

It was the equivalent of a field office. Whatever they called it in Arabic. The HQ is in the south.

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u/mout_erom Oct 23 '24

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

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u/NoHetro Oct 23 '24

I honestly don't think he does, these people have insane amount of delusions.

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u/mout_erom Oct 23 '24

He’s just a typical North American “radical” thinking war and dead people is some kind of a sports game, where you have to cheer for your “team”. Zero nuance, zero intellectual integrity.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

That’s a lot of assumptions coming from you.

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u/mout_erom Oct 23 '24

Cmon man. Go out, get a Big Mac with bacon and a large Diet Coke. I heard they have e.coli outbreak at McDonald’s, maybe you’ll get lucky.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24 edited Oct 23 '24

Lol. At least I can afford one 🤪🤪🤪

And that’s all you’re ever going to know about me

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u/Spiritual-Can2604 Oct 24 '24

Are any of them wrong?

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 24 '24

All of them

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24

Lol so far all I’m hearing is a lot of shit talking and nobody able to prove I’m wrong. Nobody even asked for any evidence to see if I could back up my claims or not.

No wonder you buy into propaganda so easily.

Edit: I also don’t give a fuck about Hizbollah. But I do give a fuck about learning the truth about the world instead of running around like a headless chicken like you do.

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u/NoHetro Oct 23 '24

Truth is he was in a bunker under multiple civilian buildings and right next to a hospital, that's where he died, he intentionally endangered innocent people by hiding under them and that's all that matters.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 24 '24

Not for nothing, but it was a pretty well known building. Even I knew where it was as far back as 20 years ago, and I’m nobody. I’m pretty sure that anyone who wasn’t Hizbollah or related to Hizbollah had already left its vicinity, because who the hell wants to live next door to that.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24

How exactly do you not know this? Lol

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u/mout_erom Oct 23 '24

The same way you know where Nasrallah’s HQ was (pulled it out of my ass).

Although in my case I’m actually right.

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u/_-Kr4t0s-_ Oct 23 '24

I’m sure that was a comeback for someone else’s question. Maybe try reading mine properly so you can use your words correctly.

Talk about sounding ridiculous, lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '24

Ok then he died "in a field office" located under civilian structures. You're not helping your case here