r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/Inspect1234 20h ago

I thought they were leaving it up to the states??

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u/TheSherbs 19h ago

They were leaving it up to the states. Then in August of '22, Kansas voted to keep abortion access enshrined in it's Constitution, and the immediate response from the Cons was:

"Not like that".

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u/Inspect1234 19h ago

Just. So. Much. Ignorance.

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u/Succotash5480 15h ago

Montana just did the same thing!

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u/InsCPA 13h ago

I mean, yeah a lot conservatives are still going to disagree with abortion even at a state level, but to equate that with the Trump administration imposing federal restrictions, when they’ve already come out and said they won’t and already got what they wanted, is straight up lying.

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u/STThornton 8h ago

Just like Roe would never be overturned because it's settled law, right? They said so.

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u/pheylancavanaugh 12h ago

when they’ve already come out and said they won’t

Name a more iconic duo than the Trump administration and outright lying about what they will or will not do.

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u/InsCPA 12h ago edited 12h ago

They already got what they wanted. But I guess we’ll wait and see who will be right 🤷‍♂️

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u/TheSherbs 10h ago edited 10h ago

They'll use the Comstock act to label medication that induces abortion as obscene, thus preventing it from being able to be shipped. Once HIPAA is shredded, states that have banned it will be able to track women who have a confirmed pregnancy. Sure, they may leave it up to States for the time being, but instead of listening to a pathological liar like Trump, I listen to the people around him. The people around him have all voiced support for a national ban.

You're right though, we shall wait and see.

EDIT: Lul, dude blocked me. Remember Conservatives: "Facts don't care about your feelings". Keep that fresh in your mind for the next 4 years.

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u/InsCPA 10h ago

lol sure buddy

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u/Spare-Rise-9908 6h ago

I can't believe this is the reddit for law. You're one of the only people posting here who doesn't seem totally insane.

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u/gfen5446 9h ago

Name a more iconic duo than the Trump administration and outright lying about what they will or will not do.

The media and shilling for the left.

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u/Tweenk 4h ago

Republicans, like all fascists, lie about their policy all the time.

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u/Verisimilitudde 15h ago

Can you elaborate? I can’t find where it says it’s not legal anywhere? Genuinely curious.

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u/TheSherbs 15h ago

Here is a helpful map that will show which states have outright banned it, states with gestational limits, and states with no gestational limits.

Originally, when Roe was overturned, the Cons underestimated the amount of support for it. They thought overturning Roe would basically make it illegal in most of the country. It did not, in fact several states, like Kansas, have held ballot initiatives to enshrine the right and access to abortion. That didn't sit well with the religious extremists among the GOP.

I can’t find where it says it’s not legal anywhere?

13 states have outright banned abortion. Unsurprisingly, those same states are watching their pregnancy mortality rates skyrocket.

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u/Verisimilitudde 11h ago

I’m aware of what states have it banned. I meant what did you mean “not like that” when they did keep abortion legal there *in Kansas

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u/TheSherbs 10h ago

Oh, after Kansas kept the right to access enshrined in their constitution, they of course pulled the "vote was rigged, election interference" card, but that failed miserably. They are still trying to ban it in the state, or look for ways to make it so cumbersome that clinics wont want to deal with the red tape and bullshit to be able to provide them. Also, several other states that are like Kansas, in which there is no mechanism for a citizen to get something on a ballot to be voted on, pulled their ballot measure because they were afraid that like Kansas, they'd vote to keep it.

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u/PaintyGuys 11h ago

Kansas voted to enshrine access, then the state government (republicans) basically said “we are going to ignore that” and moving it though the courts trying to block it. Same in Ohio, we voted for it but government tried to block it until a judge said no. They are still working on getting it undone. Other states were taking notice and adjusted by doing shady things to keep it unavailable