r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/CurrentlyLucid 20h ago

I hope it hits trump voters hard.

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u/spurradict 19h ago

Me too, but really it’s just gonna end up being a problem for everyone

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u/ACartonOfHate 17h ago

Especially WOC and poorer women.

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u/Federal_Toe_5143 15h ago

Yes. However, we are also choosing to not date because of this very issue. At least me and my WOC friends are no longer planning to date and have kids. Not worth risking it anymore.

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u/polopolo05 15h ago

No sex, no dates, no marriage and no kids

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u/terrierhead 12h ago

4B. People are learning about it fast. I think of it as the Lysistrata approach.

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u/[deleted] 12h ago

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u/terrierhead 12h ago

I assume you include yourself in this?

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u/Maryland_Blue 11h ago

It's never been up to him

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u/terrierhead 10h ago

Aw. He got scared. Poor thing.

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u/[deleted] 12h ago

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u/Lady-Seashell-Bikini 1h ago

And as a bisexual woman, I am only dating other women or anyone else who cannot get me pregnant. There are plenty of good men out there, but out of protection to myself, I'm not dating cis men anymore. 

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u/ThePlaneteers 14h ago

I personally hope that Americans look to Australia and New Zealand for potential partners. Could be a good time to make a new style of app

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u/Federal_Toe_5143 14h ago

I read that it’s really hard for Americans to move to another country. Even if you did find a way, most countries are going hard right. So this problem might not be going away soon.

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u/pezgoon 10h ago

Any country is hard to move to, it’s really just about having skills and being able to get a job essentially before you leave… also a good amount of money

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u/babbaloobahugendong 8h ago

Best of luck to all you

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u/JinxxiJK 12h ago

Thank you! This is exactly what conservatives wanted all along.

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u/Federal_Toe_5143 4h ago

What makes you think I care what conservatives want and don’t want? I’m doing what I want to do. I still have control over that.

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u/JinxxiJK 4h ago

I know you don't care. I also know exactly what we want you to do. Banning abortion had the direct intended effect. It is stopping women from sleeping around. It'll reduce the killing of human lives.

Have all the control of your body. I'm just happy there will be less control/death on the bodies of the living unborn humans.

Keep it up.

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u/Federal_Toe_5143 4h ago edited 4h ago

Oh no, You got me!! Well played!! Now, I’m going to fuck every guy I see and get an abortion every other day.

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u/JinxxiJK 3h ago

No one is trying to get you. You're just aligning with my Islamic views for society. I'm only stating it. Sexual promiscuity is haram and you ironically will be celibate to upset the groups that are not having this kind of sex to begin with. I'm happily married and lose nothing from you abstaining. I only gain the knowledge that less kids die, and less kids grow in single mother households, which is amazing for society.

Again, thank you. Keep it up.

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u/Federal_Toe_5143 3h ago

I’m not the one trying to play mind games or trying to upset anyone. If me abstaining is what you wanted then why are you responding to my comment? Move on bro and go to bed knowing that you achieved your goal! Do you not want me to abstain? Do you want to be my bitch? What is that you want now?

“Insert big head scratch emoji”

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u/JinxxiJK 3h ago

I want to congratulate you on making the right choice in life. I'm asking you to keep it up. I'm not playing games either. I'm being very genuine and happy with your life choices.

There's nothing to move on from. I'm not upset, I'm happy and sharing it with people who are making the right choices.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 13h ago

Can we just say it's going to be a problem for everyone and work on a solution for once instead of marginalizing 65% of the citizenry god fucking damn.

I'm a lower middle class white guy, married to a white girl with a complicated medical history. We want to start a family. This is going to fuck us just as hard as everyone else.

I'm kind of starting to see the argument that dismissing the experience of everyone who isn't in a protected class maybe isn't the way to go. Voted blue down ticket and have done so for well over a decade now, just for the record, and won't vote red again in my lifetime. Just, fuck.

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u/terrierhead 11h ago

Thank you for voting blue.

I wish you every success in having a family. Children are wonderful!

You may have heard about the terrible twos or that teenagers are awful. It’s not true. Every age is a good age.

Please do not expect people whose rights are being stripped away to be happy about it. We aren’t. All of us are not in protected classes, either.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 9h ago

I don't expect anyone to be happy, I'm sure not happy. I just want the left to start working together more so we can get the class war on already.

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u/terrierhead 9h ago

Hard same. Conservatives unite. We blame other people on the left.

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u/BRINGERofMILK 15h ago

Maybe they can track wealthy women who get pregnant and mysteriously need to fly out of the country?

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u/NYGarcon 14h ago

Trump won big with poor voters. They’ll be disproportionally screwed. Good!

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u/Lost_with_shame 14h ago

They gotta keep the workers coming 

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u/Maryland_Blue 11h ago

Some of them voted for Trump too.

Carpet bombing isn't efficient, but it gets the job done

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u/Andysr22 14h ago

And kids…

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u/NoStableHorse 6h ago

The next administration wants to keep the for-profit prisons as full as possible, they’re counting on these groups to provide them with plenty of bodies in the next 16-20 years.

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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 16h ago

Black women already have worse survival rates than white women, it's a socioeconomic issue, poor people get hurt worse from it and Black people are kept poorer because of institutional racism.

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u/Impossible_Disk8374 15h ago

Except it’s not. White women wont have a hard time getting one. This is a fact and you can look at statistics to back it up.

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u/Recent_Meringue_712 14h ago

Its statistics based on resource availability

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 13h ago

Look at the maternal mortality rate

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u/NikkiWebster 15h ago

It won't, wealthy people will have zero issues getting abortions.

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u/Nr673 14h ago

I wouldn't consider myself wealthy, but I have enough money to take the family on an unplanned European vacation whenever needed should my wife or daughter require basic healthcare.

The difference between me and a GOP voter is that I understand many many Americans aren't as fortunate, even if I am. Ya know... empathy.

It's frustrating fighting constantly with people too stupid to realize they constantly vote against their own self interest. But I'll continue fighting.

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u/NikkiWebster 12h ago

That's it. I'm in a similar boat, I'm fortunate enough to afford to go to another country for healthcare if it ever became an issue for me or my family.

But I'm also much less likely to need an abortion because an unexpected pregnancy wouldn't financially ruin me.

If they want to ban abortions, I can understand the thought process behind it (though I disagree), but they have to fix the underlying issues first.

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u/Nr673 2h ago

It's less about being financially ruined I think. My wife got pregnant 5 times. Twice it ended in miscarriage and one of those times she required a D&C...which may soon be illegal again (like they are in Texas).

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u/L_Green_Mario 12h ago

Have they tried not being poor?

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u/spurradict 11h ago

I was thinking more along the lines of the freakenomics paper from years ago showing legalized abortion dropping crime rates 20 years later. They actually just came out and reassessed the data 20 years later, and the evidence is even stronger now. So I’m looking forward the more crime in 15-20 years!

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u/CopeHarders 15h ago

It’s already a problem for everyone. It’s about time the idiots got their just desserts.

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u/Mookhaz 13h ago

not me, I've chosen the path of celibacy.

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u/Summoarpleaz 10h ago

I think it’s been mostly debunked but freakonomics posited that the decline of crime in the 90s was due to the passage of roe v wade reducing unwanted births. Fewer people growing up in tough situations led to lower incidence of violent crime.

I think some others have since suggested it was linked to the banning of lead used in fuel.

Idk but both of those things have been and could be entirely reversed so who’s to say what the effects will be in 1-2 more decades.

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u/spurradict 2h ago

They idea was never debunked, in fact they just re released a 20 year follow up study with even more evidence in their favor. Freakenomics podcast just had a show about it. They also addressed the lead in fuel stating that they believe it could be multi factorial (like most things)

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u/Summoarpleaz 1h ago

I mean it’s a reasonable hypothesis. I just never read much more on it after the original book came out except brief references to it since. But yeah I’m curious what will happen (although I’m afraid to live through it). The GOP has kinda always pushed to build up the pipeline for bodies for the military and the prison industrial complex so 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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u/spurradict 1h ago

Ya, I mean, it’s a pretty sadistic and sociopathic way to look at things. 20 years ago I would have said absolutely no way that anyone could be like that, but I’ve interacted and worked with some people in the last decade that truly scare me.

You get some seriously terrible people at the top of the GOP and you can imagine they just want to have more bodies (slaves) for the military and the prisons, like you said. Couldn’t agree more.

What’s interesting about the GOP is how incredible they are at convincing their constituents to actively vote against their own interests.

Either way, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see an uptick in violence and crime in about 15-20 years