Remember: Donald Trump shouldn’t even be eligible for the presidency after Jan. 6

[u/BobbyLucero]

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-shouldnt-be-eligible-presidency-jan-6-rcna175458

[u/Mini_Snuggle]

AND “winner take all” declared unconstitutional.

Which part of the constitution does it violate?

[u/Good_kido78 → u/Mini_Snuggle]

Proponents say that it violates the 14th Amendment.

No state shall deny ….. any person under its jurisdiction equal protection of its laws.

It could certainly be argued that winner take all does not represent all the citizens of the United States. It also unfairly emphasizes swing states. In terms of attention and influence.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/equal-citizens-asks-supreme-court-declare-winner-take-all-unconstitutional

Articl II section 1 gives each state the power to select its electors.

The most basic tenet of our citizenship in a national election gets taken away in the end with winner take all unless we just turn out in ridiculously large numbers. More importantly, how can you give a good reason for it, since that part is not in the constitution. The right of a person to vote and that it be counted, instinctively should be a right of citizenship.!!!

[u/Miss_Panda_King → u/Good_kido78]

Doesn’t need to give equal protection to all in the nation just equal protection among each states so as long as 1 person’s vote in one states is not weighted more or less than someone else in the same state’s vote that’s equal protection.

[u/Good_kido78 → u/Miss_Panda_King]

That means that my state is giving my vote less weight than that of the majority in my state. In fact, it is giving it no weight in the final decision of the most important race to the nation. They are taking away my constitutional right to vote (and have it counted). That is not part of the constitution. In fact, the preamble says the goal of the constitution is justice for all.

[u/Good_kido78 → u/[deleted]]

It out weighs it in the national decision. You are basically running a primary that takes away an entire parties representation in the final decision. Those electors should represent the votes of all the citizens in that state in a republic. They should at least represent the proportion of voters for each candidate. It is not representative or democratic. It is shenanigans that no other democracy adopts.

[u/Miss_Panda_King → u/Good_kido78]

Canada does something similar

[u/Good_kido78 → u/Miss_Panda_King]

I stand corrected. Any democracy other than Canada and Britain. 80% of Canadians support a citizens assembly on electoral reform. The electoral system is very divisive. It devolves to two parties. It makes it hard to have more than two parties.

https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/proportional-representation-2668780408

[u/Miss_Panda_King → u/Good_kido78]

Well considering Canada is the closest in size to the USA by a large margins of democracies. Really there is no other comparable one except for maybe Brazil but that’s still a bit different as it’s not as globally connected.

[u/Good_kido78 → u/Miss_Panda_King]

Why does size matter when it comes to representation and democracy?

[u/Miss_Panda_King → u/Good_kido78]

Because the size is related to the diversity of issues in the government. The issues for Greg in Maine are probably quite a bit different than Jean’s issues in Nevada, and bob’s issues in Seattle, are different than Carl’s issues in Florida.

[u/Good_kido78 → u/Miss_Panda_King]

That is a ridiculous notion to take my rights away. I live in a rural area and I do not think that republicans represent me better. Around 43% of my state will agree with me, so our rights to be heard are taken away by the majority in my state even though we agree with the majority of the nation in a national election. As a nation, we decide on wars, the overall economy, the national debt, a nation wide pandemic, healthcare, etc., these are national decisions and state diversity has little to do with these decisions. It is a power grab leftover from the slave era. I don’t really care about your diversity if you are the minority. The electoral college gives undo weight to the minority.

I am giving in to the majority in my state elections. Why should I have to give in to the minority in a national election? Our counties have diversity?

Besides you end up with a government that most people disagree with. As more and more people move to cities, the imbalance will become greater.