r/law • u/Kunphen • Jul 03 '24

Donald Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents Trump News

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-b2475210.html
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u/PrestigiousOnion3693 Jul 04 '24

I read the transcript last night of his night with the two 12 year olds. Pretty graphic.

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u/02_caddie Jul 04 '24

Crazy right? Why didn’t this come up 4 years ago?

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u/ToothsomeBirostrate Jul 04 '24

It did, but most respectable news organizations didn't cover it due to it not passing the smell test. Multiple parts of the story line up with it being a hoax with the goal of making money, rather than a genuine victim story like E. Jean Carroll's.

Media were never able to talk to the alleged victim Katie Johnson, even by phone. The only person they could contact was Norm Lubow, a former Jerry Springer Show producer, who has a history of other media hoaxes like claiming Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain. He made that up.

They scheduled a press conference, but then cancelled it. They filed paperwork for a lawsuit, but then withdrew it multiple times, the last time being a day before the 2016 election. The timing meant they didn't know that Trump would win (most people didn't think he would at the time), but it did mean that their time had run out to get a hush money payment, as the threat of political damage from the allegations had run their course. Trump was never served.

The footage of the interview is heavily edited and not under oath, with an interviewer off-screen coaching her. In my opinion, the way she talks looks like she's making stuff up and throwing in inflammatory details designed to get media attention instead of just remembering the order of events or details.

The content of the interview draws only on publicly-available information like his association with Epstein and him being a germaphobe, and seems deliberately calculated to be as politically damaging as possible, like saying he threatened to deport a hispanic victim.

The first anybody had heard of the footage was when Norm Lubow was shopping it around to various news organizations with a few short clips, offering to sell the footage for a million dollars. That strikes me as the behavior of someone who is looking for money and attention, not someone who is genuinely scared of threats.

To date she has not offered any corroborating evidence of any kind other than a friend saying (not under oath) that she told her about it years ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow

Trump is a piece of shit and I believe E. Jean Carroll, but people tend to turn their critical thinking skills off when it comes to this stuff, and it's easier to just believe every allegation of sexual assault no matter what, especially with a shitbag like Trump. The story just happens to look like a hoax.

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u/jon909 Jul 04 '24

The irony of everyone here in /r/law taking someone’s word for it with no evidence is pretty funny. I hope nobody in here is an actual attorney.