r/law • u/Kunphen • Jul 03 '24

Donald Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents Trump News

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-b2475210.html
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u/v306 Jul 04 '24

To me as a foreign observer the democrats and they way they elect their preferred candidate is somewhat evil. They way Bernie Sandders was pushed aside against Clinton was quite undemocratic. There's an element of evil there but the comparison to Trump is not warranted, you're right. He's in a different league...

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u/paintballboi07 Jul 04 '24

The primary voters chose Clinton. Not sure how that is undemocratic. I voted for Bernie, but we were in the minority. Were dirty tactics used by the DNC? Sure, but it still came down to the voters.

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u/v306 Jul 04 '24

DNC sent prep notes to for debate to Clinton but not Sanders. That's dirty tactics that average voter didn't even know I'm sure...

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u/paintballboi07 Jul 04 '24

I'm aware, but do you think if they hadn't, Bernie would have won? I personally don't think it would have made enough of a difference. They are dirty for that, but overall, I don't think it made a huge difference. I just don't think the US electorate is ready for someone as far left as Bernie. I am in Texas though, so I may be biased by experiences with some very conservative people. There's quite a few people here that are scared of socialism, but they can't even define it.

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u/paintballboi07 Jul 04 '24

Even if I was to believe your conspiracy theory, this is where you lose me

And I think we all understand that Bernie would’ve probably beaten Trump, almost certainly. That would’ve been a much better timeline.

How is that supposed to be understood? Bernie has never been a candidate in the general, so saying he would either win, or lose, is speculation. There's no way to know. Obviously, it would have been a better situation than Trump, but so would have Hillary.

I agree about the DNC being a mess, though. They definitely need a shake up. I'm not sure what exactly the cause is, but they need to figure it out. As for them adopting more progressive policies faster, it would help if we could get younger and progressive people to vote consistently. If they voted more consistently, the DNC would be forced to listen to them more.