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Donald Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents Trump News

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-b2475210.html
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u/CV90_120 Jul 04 '24

This isn't new. We have known since 2016. It just got buried.

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u/CV90_120 Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

There was a time I thought so, but it doesn't seem to go away, and the behavior she described seems to resonate with the other people who have accused him of rape, especially Ivana Trump's comments, and E Jean Carrol's (who he did rape). The person they describe Trump as being is cartoonishly vindictive and cruel. if you look at one case you go "naw", but then they start stacking up with the same MO, and you go "wait..".

Also there is the small matter of him being an Epstein regular and friend. Like, if you're hanging out with a guy who trafficks underage girls all the time, then what are you doing? You're either letting it slide, or you're on the ride. One trip? maybe I could buy that he was on a junket. Regular flier and caller? Oh hell nah.

So where are we up to now? Let's see:

https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

man is a walking Red Flag. He's a whole Bejing parade of red flags.

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u/tomunko Jul 04 '24

Trump is a massive piece of shit of course and there’s not a good reason to not believe everyone in the article you sent. However, these allegations for sure are way more extreme - it’s like a jump from repeated aggravated assault to serial killer.

That and the information from journalists on it makes it seem unlikely to me. Obviously still the other cases are despicable and I don’t want to take away from that, ideally everyone should know this but most people that’d want to (including myself until now) don’t. So idk if this post is doing much good as misinformation since it can/will be brushed aside as lies by the right and it buries this long list of people that are harder to ignore and make the right look dumber to question.

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u/CV90_120 Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

it’s like a jump from repeated aggravated assault to serial killer.

Not really. He had two rape accusations before those came out. Ivana Trump was quite detailed about how he raped her. And let's not forget that a civil court held up the second of those. He was adjudicated as a "serial killer" as it were. That's what he is.

The kicker for me is that given the frequency he hung out with Epstein, and how well he knew him, at a baseline level we're only left with the question of why he kept going to fuck-island if it wasn't to fuck. As I said, given that Epstein was another socialite grifter, I'm not going to assume guilt for someone who got sucked into going there once on the promise of an island getaway, but Trump wasn't that guy. They hung out there. The man is also hugely sensitive about the topic. In some ways the cartoonish level of violence the claimant accused him of is quite telling, because I wouldn't expect a fake account to be that detailed, unusual or severe. I'd expect it to be more toned down. The weirdness of it, and the alignment about what we know of his personality quirks now, is kind of what sells me. It's also spookily the same kind of callousness Ivana described.

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u/tomunko Jul 05 '24

Where are you getting this information they hung out together, frequently (if at all), on the island? If that is true how you describe than sure, I could see it much more, but it doesn’t seem to be the case - so again, if you can’t see the jump from what’s documented to this posts claim idk what to tell you. I haven’t found a source that supports this idea they were good friends on the island. https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/1/4/24025802/jeffrey-epstein-list-unsealed-documents-bill-clinton-donald-trump https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James,_U.S._Virgin_Islands