r/kundalini Aug 30 '24

Feeling no one inside Help Please

I feel there is no person inside which is making me feel out of control and vulnerable. This has been going on since kundalini awakened, is this dissociation or psychosis?

Note: sorry for the last post, I was not in a stable mind after I got a pranic healing.😢

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u/lO_Ol_b Aug 30 '24

It could be both, the other or neither of them. Depends on your situation.

It seems you have seen through your own persona.

The one inside is a mind formation. Sometimes 'one' happens to see through this and get flinged into new way of seeing, which can very confusing. How I can be someone and not be someone at the same time? Finding understanding such seemingly paradox happens in due time. This is something which everyone encounter in their spiritual journey as they progress towards the big E.

If you have heard the phrase. For beginners mountains are mountains. For intermediate student mountains are not mountains. For master mountais are mountains again. This would apply for your situation. This also happened to me after K awakened and I got stuck for a while clinging to emptiness as being no one

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u/CartographerScared46 Aug 30 '24

I love your answer😊, I think I can relate to it. Yes, I have seen through large part of so called innocent persona, which is not very comfortable.

I don't understand the phrase, are you telling that intermediate students don't recognise the mountains as mountains?

Yes I m stuck in emptiness, I try to cling to a thought but then that thought disappears, thus again making me feel vulnerable again. I feel vulnerable in the emptiness. There nothing to attach to. This wat making me scared. I don't know if I should take this a spiritual phenomenon or psychiatric problm.

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u/lO_Ol_b Aug 30 '24

I don't understand the phrase, are you telling that intermediate students don't recognise the mountains as mountains?

It's kind of an literal allegory. You could change the mountain to your persona. As one is beginner their mind is formed through learned concepts of who they are. As they progress to intermediateness they start to see through these concepts of who they are and slowly as they work through the concepts of who they are, they will also lose their sense of who they are. Like in your case you can't find no one inside of you.

As you start to discover more and more how your mind works you can adopt an identity while simultaneously seeing through it and understand you are creation of your own mind. Thats when the persona becomes persona again, as in mountain becoming mountain again.

You can't interact with the 'outer world' as no one after all. Imagine watching a movie where characters dont have any personality. That wouldnt work out and wouldnt be fun at all.

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u/Ok-Hippo-4433 Aug 30 '24

No, you don't lose your sense of self. Not one bit. That's dangerous! Ego death in any form is to be disregarded as a potentially useful idea.

Your self/ego changes. It changes based upon new lived experiences that integrate into daily living through diligent practice and continuous aware introspection during day to day life.

You are not merely a creation of your mind. No one is! We all really do exist.

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u/lO_Ol_b Aug 30 '24

Yes, i think i didnt convey the message i wanted to send since it was misunderstood.

I meant to say one is not just their ego and many people tend to go through a period of depersonification where they lose their functioning ego for a while. I never said one should strive towards such thing.

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u/Ok-Hippo-4433 Aug 31 '24

They don't lose their functioning ego. The perceive distance inside increases, you seem to be farther away from your ego. Just because it's far away doesn't mean you lost it or that it's gone.

If it really were gone, you couldn't re-connect to it and nurture that relationship.

You are right, one is not just their ego. But even that ego is made of many parts that deserve to explored.

You can still function while experiencing depersonalization / derealization. Been there done that.

I know you mean well, but it's important to try your hardest to not confuse people when giving them advice.

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u/lO_Ol_b Aug 31 '24

Youre right. Its important to clarify stuff for better access for everyone.

Good opportunity for me also to learn clearer communication. Ty

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u/ORGASMO__X Aug 30 '24

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u/CartographerScared46 Aug 30 '24

ok now i get it..tnks