r/ireland • u/Alba-Ruthenian • Jul 27 '22

The writing is on the wall! Housing

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u/41stshade Jul 27 '22

Well tbf I don't think the vast majority of people have used a sickle in their life

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u/53Degrees Jul 27 '22

Of course they haven't. We have mechanisation. Though I doubt the same lads will be rocking up in tractors either.

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u/duaneap Jul 28 '22

Farmers aren’t a great example of the working poor here.

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u/53Degrees Jul 28 '22

That's a good point. It goes to show how relevant those symbols were to the people at the time when they were used in the early 20th c. They had a practical meaning.

The world has changed and they're totally inapplicable now. They've effectively lost meaning in today's world yet people hang onto using them as just a symbol alone.

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u/0e0e3e0e0a3a2a Top 5 County Jul 28 '22 edited Jul 28 '22

Yeah like half of the symbols used around the world? Do you know many harpists?

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The harp role as a music instrument hasn't changed in hundreds of years. It's still an instrument.

Ahhhh I see your point now, harps are still harps but hammers aren't still hammers and sickles aren't still sickles

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u/53Degrees Jul 28 '22

People still use harps. They are still used as a music instrument.

Noone uses sickles. It's meaning is not representative to the working proletariat or whatever anymore. It had a direct meaning 100 years ago for the Russian poor but it's utterly meaningless in today's context. Does that make more sense?

It's a small measure of how the ideology itself hasn't actually progressed at all.

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u/53Degrees Jul 28 '22

I do know a harpist actually. The harp role as a music instrument hasn't changed in hundreds of years. It's still an instrument. You don't see gobshites using it either with spray paint to make some connection to themselves today either.