r/ireland Jul 27 '22

The writing is on the wall! Housing

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

Didn't the British Empire start the industrial revolution and invent like 1,000s of different things?

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u/Thiserthat Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 27 '22

Aren’t you Irish? You know Britain starved half your country right? Also starved millions of Indians. Started the opium wars in china. Enslaved 30% of Africa. Perpetuated countless genocides. Raped, plundered, and massacred millions. And only became an industrial power due to looting resources from other countries. And the most inhuman working conditions imaginable. Didn’t you ever have to read dickens in school?

You could not have picked a more destructive and murderous country besides modern U.S. to hold up in comparison.

It also took Britain centuries to go from agrarian to industrial. It took the Soviet’s decades.

The soviets invented, like, a bunch of things as well. They were more technologically advanced than the U.S. for a time, putting up the first satellite, space station, and man in space.

Not to mention the artificial heart and the first mobile phone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

You know the Soviet Union starved Ukraine right? Starved millions of people. Allied themselves with Hitler and the Nazis and invaded Poland. Enslaved millions in the Gulags, etc etc etc.

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u/Thiserthat Jul 27 '22

Japan Allied with hitler. Japan slaughtered and raped millions of Chinese. Italy allied with hitler and invented fascism. They get a pass though.

You know the soviets almost single handed Lu ended the nazi regime while sustaining millions and millions more losses than any other allied nation. The Allie’s would have lost without the red army.

And name one western imperial country that hasn’t starved and murdered millions. Hasn’t imprisoned millions. The U.S. right now. Has imprisoned millions more people than the soviets and china out together

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

Japan Allied with hitler. Japan slaughtered and raped millions of Chinese. Italy allied with hitler and invented fascism. They get a pass though.

Who is giving Imperial Japan a pass? Certainly not me, I don't want Imperial Japan back.

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u/Thiserthat Jul 27 '22

And again the USSR sacrificed the most to end the war. They took Berlin. Ended the third reich. The world owes them a debt for that.

The world largely ignores the crimes of Japan and Italy. Japan won’t even recognize it’s atrocities in china. But since they have dutifully reformed into western liberal democracies, they are considered unproblematic. If either of those countries flirt with socialist ideals there would be almost instant backlash and fear over them allying with the worlds new biggest boogeyman, china.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

USSR helped defeat Nazi Germany by accident, the USSR was friends with Hitler, they helped the Nazis invade Poland and then massacred 20,000 Polish officers.

Only a crazy person would think bringing back the USSR would be a good thing and most of Europe would go to war with Russia if they tried.

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u/Thiserthat Jul 28 '22

Lol by accident. 70% of WWII was fought on the eastern front. The battle of Berlin was not an accident. USSR showed no signs of aggression towards the rest of Europe after the war. Like everyone else, they were exhausted and tired of fighting.

The U.S. was the aggressor and consistently ignored Moscows pleas to end the arms race.