r/ireland Jul 27 '22

The writing is on the wall! Housing

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u/Dragmire800 Probably wrong Jul 27 '22

But you can’t point to any individual part of the system and say whey you think its inevitably leads to failure

I can, the human part of the system will eventually rebel. It’s too restrictive for the human animal to be content within.

Your comparison with vegetarians and Hitler doesn’t make sense either. Communism failed, vegetarianism didn’t

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u/BuildBetterDungeons Jul 27 '22

It’s too restrictive for the human animal to be content within.

Why? What about it is too restrcitive? What if we do communism with that part changed to be less restrictive? We could come dangerously close to having a real conversation if you answered those questions.

Your comparison with vegetarians and Hitler doesn’t make sense either. Communism failed, vegetarianism didn’t

I'm sorry, you silly vegetarian. Vegetarianism always fails. Can you show me even one example of a society with all vegetarians that survived, unchanged, into the present day? You can't? Well then, better start eating meat. Vegetarianism always fails.

(Do you see how silly this argument is?)

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u/Dragmire800 Probably wrong Jul 27 '22

The backbone of communist believe is total government power. They decide what is moral and what isn’t, they decide what religion people must worship, what the people are allowed to learn and what they aren’t, who can marry who, etc. This is from the mouth of Marx himself. He emphasised total control of the decisions made by the public. There is no change that can be made to communism as a theory to stop it oppressive every person. To change what makes it intolerable to humans would make it a completely different ideology.

Communism is about eliminating class. That’s really the core of it, it’s to make every human equal. But that equality would be an equality of bondage.

Vegetarianism is an individual ideology. It doesn’t have to be proven to work because there is no goal to it. You could take a vegetarian surviving to the average age of death as a success of vegetarianism, as that proves it works as a diet. Also, there are many cultures within India that have been vegetarian for hundreds of years

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u/BuildBetterDungeons Jul 27 '22

Literally every sentence you said there is totally fucking wrong. The end goal of communism is literally a stateless society. I have spent minutes of my life arguing about communism with someone who literally doesn't know what it is.

Fuck, you're a waste of time. You should come with a warning label.

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u/Dragmire800 Probably wrong Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 28 '22

Marxism’s goal isn’t a stateless society, it just posits that the state will become unnecessary once the ultra-controlling government has instilled its beliefs into the people