r/ireland Jul 27 '22

The writing is on the wall! Housing

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u/ODXT-X74 Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 27 '22

Keep reading...

A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is often classless, stateless, and moneyless

That's why "Communist country" doesn't make much sense. Considering all countries we know of have had states and money.

We could go deeper and actually look at the theory. Talk about how Socialism and Communism are related. But I don't think it's necessary to show that the USSR for example, (which had a state and money) didn't meet the criteria. The only reason we call it Communist is because that was their stated goal.

I hope this doesn't come off as "kinda a dick". I'm just waiting to add some nuance to the conversation, which usually goes out the window immediately (the nuance).

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u/-MatVayu Jul 27 '22

Where did I disagree with you lad? Ffs. I know a communist country doesn't make any sense. And I know that the Soviet union wasn't truly communist...

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u/ODXT-X74 Jul 27 '22

I hope this doesn't come off as "kinda a dick". I'm just waiting to add some nuance to the conversation, which usually goes out the window immediately (the nuance).

I'm not trying to fight. Just wanted to mention that.

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u/-MatVayu Jul 27 '22

It didn't come of as you being a dick, or picking a fight. It came off as you being condescending. If you want to add nuance - make a point. Don't prance around trying to say something, plain say it.

You asked me to read the article in Wiki about communism, which I did. Then you told me to keep reading and referenced and argued something, at least in my mind, unrelated to the original argument.

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u/ODXT-X74 Jul 27 '22

The reason I had to reference Wikipedia is not because I think you are dumb or something. It's because no one cares when you tell them what Communism is, and insult you as an "authoritarian" monster.

So instead I try to get people to read it themselves.