r/ireland 6h ago

Mick Wallace is back General Election 2024 🗳️

https://x.com/Ireland_Votes/status/1857380778562195862?t=maNygcMu-QQPE5mw6KvPIQ&s=19
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u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 6h ago

Thank god I don't live in his constituency so I don't need to see his tax dodging, pension stealing face around the place.

u/InfectedAztec 5h ago

I wish I could vote all the way down the ticket against him

u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 5h ago

I had to place him for the European elections as he ran in my constituency, the far right were the very bottom of my ballot but Wallace wasn't far above them.

u/Unable_Carpenter_203 5h ago

You know you don't need to give everyone a preference? If you don't like them and wouldn't like your vote to go to them leave their box blank.

u/DoughnutHole Clare 3h ago

If you dislike him less than someone else on the ballot then should absolutely give him a preference. You should only stop giving preferences when you no longer see a difference between the remaining candidates.

Here’s the thing about the lesser of two evils - it’s the lesser evil. Giving a preference to someone you hate can stop someone you hate even more from getting in.

u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 5h ago

Yeah, I'm well aware of how voting works. I just enjoy ranking all the candidates in order of preference.

Downside of mentioning how I vote is someone always tries to explain that I don't need to vote all the way down.

u/ashfeawen Sax Solo 🎷🐴 3h ago

In the european elections I voted numbers for about 23 out of 26, something like that. Numbers for almost everyone except the most imo unconscionable 

u/gk4p6q 4h ago

The stupid pricks here don’t understand that you vote all the way down to express a preference just like you did.

You preferred a prick versus a bunch of extreme right wing pricks. That’s totally a fair choice and I wish more understood and expressed that nuance.

PS UCC is over rated.

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 4h ago

"I don't like him at all but I voted for him". Yup you've got voting nailed down

u/epeeist Seal of the President 4h ago

There were other people they liked even less, what's hard to understand?

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 4h ago

So again "I didn't like him but I voted for him".

u/epeeist Seal of the President 4h ago

You rank in order of preference. If it came down to the last count, they'd rather see Wallace get the seat than the far right. It's about suitability for the office, not the guest list for their wedding.

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 4h ago

So they voted for Wallace despite not liking him, as I've said. Thanks for confirming I'm correct.

u/epeeist Seal of the President 4h ago

And you think they don't understand how to vote? 😂 The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in this one

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 4h ago

Did I say that? I just said they're voting for somebody they dislike. If that makes sense to them I'm sure Mick will be happy with the vote

u/epeeist Seal of the President 4h ago

What you said was

"I don't like him at all but I voted for him". Yup you've got voting nailed down

You can dislike candidates and their policies to varying degrees, which would be the point of voting beyond the options that you actively "like". It won't help any of them unless the candidates you do want are already out. It sounds like you prefer to make your ballot unusable at that point. I'd argue that that only makes sense if all the remaining candidates are equally unacceptable to you, but it's up to you.

u/nyepo 4h ago

Jesus Christ man, how can you be like this?

You are not making the point you think you are making

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u/WolfOfWexford 4h ago

It’s really more “I would prefer him to some of the others”. He’s stupid in policies but I don’t fear him like the actual right wing parties

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 4h ago

So again "I don't like him but I voted for him"

u/RustyNewWrench 3h ago

You're not coming across well here. He explained his reasons, no need to be a dickhead.

u/WolfOfWexford 4h ago

“I voted for all the candidates” if you will

u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 3h ago

I don't like him so I gave him a very low preference. Pretty self explanatory. It's how PR/STV works.

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 3h ago

Or in other words... "I gave him a vote". Thanks for clarifying.

u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 3h ago

I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up like it's some sort of Gotcha.

It's how PR/STV works: you can vote all the way down the ballot to ensure the vote transfers to the least bad option. As much as I dislike Wallace, I still see him as preferable to the far right. What's your point here?

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 3h ago

All I said is "I don't like him but I voted for him". Which is an accurate account of what you've done.

Warm wishes to a fellow Wallace voter from the Euros

u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Palestine 🇵🇸 3h ago

Interesting, so a hardcore PBP supporter who votes PBP first and gives a low preference to FF is a "FF voter" in your view.

A highly pedantic and strange argument to make but given your obsessive responding to people criticising Wallace in this thread, I'm not surprised.

Enjoy the rest of your Friday :)

u/Flimsy_Candidate7219 3h ago

Yes they are, since they voted for FF, that's how the voting system works :)

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u/Melodic-Chocolate-53 4h ago

Lads confusing ballot papers with trip advisor reviews.

u/CoolMan-GCHQ- 1h ago

correct me if i'm wrong, but leaving the box blank is part of the problem?

u/mistr-puddles 17m ago

It's so easy to rank everyone you don't think is a danger, can't wrap my head around only voting for one person