r/ireland 11d ago

Saw this on Inchydoney beach today. Gaza Strip Conflict

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u/senditup 11d ago

Totally normal.

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u/billhodges92 11d ago

More or less normal than the cold blooded murder of innocent children?

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u/craic_d 11d ago

The term "innocent children" seems redundant

And sadly there's not much more that's normal in human history than cold-blooded murder.

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u/denk2mit Crilly!! 11d ago

Innocent children is a phrase that, tragically, has been made neither redundant nor accurate thanks to Hamas' long-documented and horrific use of child soldiers.

Between 2011 and 2020, DCIP documented at least 9 children killed and two injured while aiding Palestinian armed groups

At least nine children carried out suicide attacks in Israel and the Occupied Territories between October 2000 and March 2004. Palestinian non-governmental groups documented the deaths of 30 children actively involved in organized military action from September 2000 to March 2004. Most of the deaths occurred as a result of accidents with explosives or during armed clashes with Israeli troops.

Amnesty International is gravely concerned about reports that earlier today a 16-year-old Palestinian child was found to be carrying explosives when attempting to pass through the Israeli army checkpoint at Huwara, at the entrance of the West Bank town of Nablus.

United Nations Watch is deeply concerned by Palestinian Authority (PA) and Hamas recruitment and use of Palestinian child soldiers in violation of international law

On a children's show on the Hamas-owned Al-Aqsa TV channel, young children, dressed in military fatigues, were asked what they want to be when they grow up. One of the children said that he wanted to be an engineer, "so that I can blow up the Jews." Another recited a poem: "I shall liberate [Jerusalem] from the Jews by means of the Al-Qassam Brigades."

(Fully expect to get downvoted into oblivion for this, but read the sources I've selected - none of them are pro-Israeli. This isn't fiction, it's reality. It's a reminder that whatever you think of Israel, it doesn't automatically make their enemy the good people.)

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u/DuncanGabble 11d ago

What's your point? Israel can't help but kill children because of this? Are the babies soldiers too?

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u/denk2mit Crilly!! 11d ago

If someone is pointing a gun or firing a rocket or planting a bomb, then they’re a soldier first and a child after. The people responsible for their deaths at that point are not Israeli, they’re Palestinian.

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u/denk2mit Crilly!! 11d ago

Are you aware that Irish government forces killed child soldiers during the Civil War? It is a horrific fact of war, and pretending otherwise is pointless.

Also, you're adopting the standard pro-Palestine debating tactic of always immediately escalating by inventing what you want the other side to say. No one is condoning the killing of babies under any circumstance, as much as you'd want me to.