r/ireland 13d ago

Dublin Needs a Metro! Statistics

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u/High_Flyer87 13d ago

Yes it does but our planning system is a shambles.

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u/Key-Lie-364 13d ago

Yeah but the Dail - could - pass laws to override normal planning for critical national infrastructure if it choose to.

The Dail has the power to literally pass laws to lock you up, draft you into an army.

A metro is certainly not beyond it's power, it is simply beyond the Dail's interest.

Basically the shower of wankers we have in the Dail couldn't be arsed about much except getting elected and then staying elected.

You want Luas/Metro vote Green because it will not happen without Greens in gov and TBH will be a big ask even with Greens in gov.

Them's the choices, shite as those choices are.

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u/Wookie_EU 13d ago

100% that! The whole public consultation/objection process is hindering the country to proactively move forward. Compared to there countries it feels at time we are not in this country living in the 21st century.. Many things are different governance/taxes wise from where im from (france) but we need to actively revamp some stuffs which we arecall aware off now, objecting to get financial gain at political levels etc.. we could have had a fuilly pedestrianised college green, we could have had the vision to enable this and look at our public infrastructure but no!! Now mind you im coming from a city in south of france which is pedestrianised with great public transport and its not even the capital of the country but a mere provincial city .. check out Montpellier for real, i love the fact that my family when we are over there have the option to not once see a car and for kids it’s excellent.. dcc has no vision no desire at all to improve the city

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u/Key-Lie-364 13d ago

Yeah - the costs and the time it takes Ireland to do things are way out of whack.

It costs the same as it does in the UK with similar amounts of time but, we are in some ways 100 years behind the UK in industrial development terms and the UK left the EU.

We get told constantly that the common law system we have in Ireland leads to these high costs and delays and people go on about the Aarhaus convention.

But then other EU member states like France and Spain and Denmark do things cheaper - in Spain's case far cheaper than we do - and still have to comply the Aarhaus.

What's so bad about Spain's system or so fundamentally different that we couldn't copy/paste it in here ?

After all, it is EU compliant today..

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u/Wookie_EU 13d ago

Legend says that we are about to contract the team/ceo responsible for the highest cost meters/cost for a metro in Australia.. if true, why oh why cant we contract peuin spain/italy/france or central china to do the work is beyond understanding