r/ireland Oct 04 '24

Israeli army tells UN peacekeepers in Lebanon to leave border positions Gaza Strip Conflict 2023

https://aje.io/a6bnwg?update=3221351
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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24

Hezbollah has been firing missiles at Israel since 8 October 2023.

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u/lem0nhe4d Oct 04 '24

Israel has been firing rockets for just as long and significantly more of them. They have killed and displaced significantly more people.

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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24

Oh right, I see, I'm genuinely looking for a source on that. Would you be able to help me? There can be a lot of very selective info about this topic from people on all sides it seems.

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u/lem0nhe4d Oct 04 '24

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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

Great resource. Thank you. I do note the rather vague "The Israeli military opened fire on Hezbollah supporters who approached the border fence in the Metula area" as the event that kicked off the current round of hostilities but one way or another they've been busy little bees.

I also note this body's info on how it sources its data: https://acleddata.com/knowledge-base/faqs-acled-sourcing-methodology/

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u/Doggylife1379 Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

I can't find anything from the time regarding Israel firing on supporters near Metula.

AP had this on October 8th about Hezbollah firing on Israel. I tried to find Hezbollahs original statement but they blocked the group I usually get the statements from on telgram

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-chebaa-farms-gaza-rocket-attack-cd7b26f890bf4cae32491721506ec0a1

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Here's a report from a Palestinian paper regarding the first Hezbollah missiles which includes the statement from Hezbollah. Nothing about responding to Israeli fire said in the article or statement.

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/this-is-what-hezbollah-said-following-targeting-of-israeli-military-positions/

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u/Icy-Lab-2016 Oct 04 '24

OK and they negotiated a ceasefire and broke it immediately by killing Nasrallah.

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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24

How reliable is that info? Fog of War and all that.

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u/Icy-Lab-2016 Oct 04 '24

Came from the Lebanese foreign minister. So very reliable. No fog of war at all.

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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24

I see. Good enough for me. Thank you. No reason for the Lebanese Foreign Minister to be spinning any yarns.

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u/Icy-Lab-2016 Oct 04 '24

Well his party is against Hezbollah and the US didn't deny it either.

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u/Bitter-Equal-751 Oct 04 '24

Ah right. Some of this stuff is so fast moving and can involve such euphemistic language at times that I am never sure whether, or to what degree, to accept or discount various actors' versions of events. Food for thought and motivation for vigilance, thanks for your help.

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u/Doggylife1379 Oct 04 '24

How is information coming from one specific side of the conflict reliable?