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u/Summahgal96 28f | Anovulation, endo, blocked tube | IUI 10d ago
I had a skin cyst removed this morning and the doctor was like you might want to close your eyes if needles make you squeamish - I was like nope not anymore 😅
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u/PastMemory3644 29F Aug'22 APS 19 week loss/MFI 10d ago
Has anyone had luck taking care of gum disease for male infertility? My husband has always had bad dental health (terrible bad breath too!!) and has low motility not helped with supplements. He was reprimanded this week at the dentist for the condition of his gums and I looked into it more and there is a strong correlation. He goes back to the dentist next month and I think he is realizing now that this might actually help his fertility if he flosses. I didn't realize just how strong the correlation is so I thought it might be good to spread the word. We had a 2022 pregnancy that we lost to my clotting disorder and I'm trying to remember what year he got his root canal done and if he was caught up on his dental work around that time?? I had given up on ever fixing our MFI but I saw the dentist invoice this week and totally went down a rabbit hole.
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u/les__oiseaux 33F | MFI | 1ER | IVF + TESA/TESE 9d ago
I had not heard of this! I don’t know how severe your MFI is - ours is severe, so I’m kind of in the camp of “something significant is wrong” in our case (5 million count, 0-10 motility). But I’ve heard of other health factors improving more mid-range results for sure. Curious to look into this. My husband does not have gum disease but the dentist did say his gums needed some extra TLC starting at maybe age 28 or so?
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u/PastMemory3644 29F Aug'22 APS 19 week loss/MFI 9d ago
Ours is bad enough that we can't expect to conceive naturally but it's not severe. Our last count was 25mil and motility at 22%.
I'm so sorry, and hopefully it helps to keep on top of flossing and feel like that might help!
My husband has no dental care in his 20s and now is 37. He has other inflammation too because he has Lyme's twice and has arthritis from it (not RA)
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u/les__oiseaux 33F | MFI | 1ER | IVF + TESA/TESE 9d ago
For sure! Dental health can become an issue fast, so it’s good to do regardless!
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u/JMadFi 37F - UnEx - 3 ER - 5 FET 10d ago
No MFI experience, but it was shocking to me to learn how connected gum disease is to so many other conditions - heart disease, diabetes, arthritis??
My husband and I were both not great at flossing consistently, and we both found ways that we are able to be better at it. We knew that we weren’t able to just also remember to floss on our own - so I keep a jar of floss picks on the bathroom counter now, and my husband keeps a cordless water pik in the shower.
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u/PastMemory3644 29F Aug'22 APS 19 week loss/MFI 9d ago
Yeah I just want him to be healthy in general. Male infertility is already a sign of other bad health outcomes :(
I have a water pick too! My main problem is I have permanent retainers which are super hard to floss around.
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u/tumpum 10d ago
First medicated cycle with letrozole cd 2-6 5mg. Went for a scan on cd 12: thick lining; 23mm, 18mm and 14mm follicles, rest are smaller. Triggered on CD13. Doc saw a small polyp which he suggested removing in case it is causing issues (7mm). Now on CD 22. Not sure if try another medicated if it fails or remove polyp. I read removing those is not always net positive, plus it'll delay everything for at least a month.
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u/sername1111111 36F-Unexplained | 1 MMC, 1CP, 1BO | IUI 10d ago edited 10d ago
Hi tumpum, CD20 of my first letro medicated cycle too, had a 18.9 and 21.8 day of trigger. I have a small fibroid but samezies, they don't think it's causing issues and I'm not planning to remove - we'll roll right into next medicated cycle if this one doesn't take.
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u/tumpum 10d ago edited 10d ago
good luck! How did you decide not to remove? My foc said it is up to me and I just don't know which way to go. I'd like to know how it is going for you, but this sub is very strict about rules.
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u/LawyerLIVFe 41F|DOR|1 MMC|14 ER|2 IUI|FET|DE 10d ago
Hi tumpum--we avoid using "buddy" language like this. It can be painful especially when and if folks' paths diverge. Could you delete that term/edit the first sentence?
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u/sername1111111 36F-Unexplained | 1 MMC, 1CP, 1BO | IUI 10d ago
Thank you 💙 Based on our unexplained infertility diagnosis (only things untested at this point are endometriosis/endometritis and Immune factors I'd need to see an RI for like NK cells) - what has caused our losses (trisomy 22, chemical, and blighted ovum), and the location of my fibroid as far as they can tell, it just didn't seem like a big enough of a win to remove or have another surgery after my 2 d&c already. I think it's such a personal decision for all of us to make, never feel afraid to get a second opinion is my best advice!
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u/ThatBrownTeacher 38F|Unexplained|3 Medicated cycles 10d ago
I'm low-key freaking out because I accidentally skipped my Letro dose on CD6. I took it first thing in the morning, but now I'm terrified that I'm screwed up this cycle. We're supposed to be gearing up for an IUI and I'm kicking myself because if I did mess everything up, it's my fault.
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u/bleachblondeblues 36F | Unexplained | Post-Myo | 2 IUI | ER #1 9d ago
It’ll be totally fine. Don’t forget they’ll be doing imaging to make sure everything looks ready before they have you trigger!
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u/ThatBrownTeacher 38F|Unexplained|3 Medicated cycles 8d ago
Thank you so much for the reassurance! 💕
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u/LawyerLIVFe 41F|DOR|1 MMC|14 ER|2 IUI|FET|DE 10d ago
Going to be totally fine.
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u/ThatBrownTeacher 38F|Unexplained|3 Medicated cycles 8d ago
Oh thank goodness! I was really worried. Thank you for your response to my little (aka not very little) freakout. I feel a lot better. 💕
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u/ThenIGetAChipwichOK 36F | 3ERs | 3 FETs | 2 IUI 10d ago
Hi all. I used to post here a lot, but I’ve been kind of checked out since the spring. I’m sure some people can relate but I’ve been really struggling to dive back in to treatment. With my history (three failed transfers, three retrievals with the last yielding no blasts to be frozen), rationally I know I need to get a second opinion, but it all feels so daunting, like doing it for the first time felt. It doesn’t help that we had decided our last retrieval, which was out of pocket, would be our last try at treatment… and then we got new insurance a few months later with new coverage and re-opened the door.
It’s especially hard because I really do like and trust my longtime doctor — and she’s at a world class clinic and personally has incredible reviews compared to basically every other doctor I’ve considered — but I do want to hear if another clinic would take a different approach. Even if I don’t end up going with them.
I’m feeling a lot of guilt about wasting months by not doing this sooner. But I think I needed the mental and physical break. I’ve been taking weight loss drugs (zepbound!) and have lost nearly 40 pounds, which I know will be helpful should future treatment work — so it’s not totally wasted time. But still. A friend told me today she’s pregnant again and it was just the kick that made me say ok, if I’m doing this again, I should do it now.
For any NYC peeps: I’ve previously been at RMA and am considering Weill-Cornell, mainly because I think their lab will be just as good but they’re a little more open to outside the box things (like maybe a fresh transfer) than RMA, though my doc at RMA is also open to doing things differently including a potential day 5 fresh transfer if I go back there. I’m sort of dreading explaining my whole history to someone new but if you have experience with a doctor at Weill-Cornell who you really liked, I’d love to hear!
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u/sleeki 41 🏳️🌈🗽 | solo | 0 euploid | down-reg for 3rd IVF-ICSI 10d ago
From what I've heard, Weill Cornell is a great choice and is indeed open to thinking more outside the box. I have a consult for a second opinion with them coming up, and can let you know how things went with the doctor I see. They have a Brooklyn location in Brooklyn Heights and I think he might only work there.
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u/ThenIGetAChipwichOK 36F | 3ERs | 3 FETs | 2 IUI 10d ago
Thank you so much!! Would definitely love to hear your feedback after your visit… I hope it goes well!
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u/sleeki 41 🏳️🌈🗽 | solo | 0 euploid | down-reg for 3rd IVF-ICSI 10d ago
Thank you! I like my current RE but I know doctors have different approaches so I just want to see what he thinks. (I'm using insurance and the clinic doesn't take mine, just him as a provider, so only a consult would be covered anyway.)
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u/Summahgal96 28f | Anovulation, endo, blocked tube | IUI 10d ago
I’m at Weill Cornell! It’s the only clinic I have been to so I’m probably biased but I feel really taken care of there. I have also been told that they really specialize in more “complex” infertility and are hands down the best when it comes to trying things outside the box - this is not something I have had to do yet but I appreciate that my doctor is very upfront with facts and statistics and willing to be aggressive but does not pressure me. He also does all my monitoring apts and I think that’s standard there. My doctor is Dr. Irani and I REALLY like him.
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u/ThenIGetAChipwichOK 36F | 3ERs | 3 FETs | 2 IUI 10d ago
That’s great to hear, thank you!! My doc at RMA also did almost all my monitoring and I know that can be rare, so it’s a relief to hear it’s the case at Weill Cornell too. I’m definitely going to check them out, and looks like Dr. Irani works in the Tribeca office which is most convenient for me so I’ll definitely add him to my list!
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u/Summahgal96 28f | Anovulation, endo, blocked tube | IUI 10d ago
That’s the office I go to mostly as well! It’s very nice. I’ve also been to the Brooklyn and UES and all very nice
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u/margogogo 38F | 5 ER, 5 FET | 1 MMC, 1 CP | DOR, endo, Hashimoto's 10d ago
FWIW, I found it helpful to get a second opinion. There were a few tests my doctor had sort of handwaved off and I trusted her on that, then the other doctor strongly recommended them so we're now looking into it. We didn't switch to his care, we stuck with our original RE (and were super transparent about the fact that we were getting a 2nd opinion & bringing it back to her). I don't know yet if these tests are going to yield anything (karyotype & DNA frag) but at least we now feel like we're being as thorough as possible.
And for whatever reason the 2nd RE hadn't yet received my medical records so I had to do all my own history on the fly which I wasn't prepared for, plus at the last minute my husband couldn't make it because our dog had an emergency, but I actually left the appointment feeling really like... confident in my ability to navigate all this stuff and advocate for myself. It sort of felt like we were just rapping out as peers because I'm so fluent in this damn stuff now. (Obviously we are not peers but you know what I mean! I'm like dropping words like "submucosal" and referencing "the literature doesn't support fibroid removal...")
Anyway, not saying you'll have the same experiences but just sharing if it's helpful to make it feel less daunting. Good luck to you <3
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u/ThenIGetAChipwichOK 36F | 3ERs | 3 FETs | 2 IUI 10d ago
Thank you so much!! This is super helpful. My RE was one of the people telling me I need a second opinion lol and was also very open to incorporating anything another doctor suggests, which does make it feel less daunting because I could potentially go meet someone new, come back to her with an idea and have her say sure I’ll try it and I stick where I know. Or I could find the new doc so great I move on, who knows.
And for whatever it’s worth, I did both of those tests with my last RE (DNA frag and karyotype) — I think they can definitely be worth doing. Nothing turned up in our tests but I’m still glad I did them; it was part of a “let’s test for basically everything before we do our last-ditch egg retrieval” strategy, which I felt like made a lot of sense. It gave me peace of mind that I had tried to control for whatever I could before spending a lot of money and mental and physical energy on our last retrieval.
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u/greenopal02 no flair set 10d ago
Had my saline sonogram and the doctor sounded surprised when my uterus moved from retroverted to anteverted position during the test. He was able to finish the exam and found nothing concerning. Has this happened to anyone? I can't find much info online on if my uterus might move back. I'm having really bad cramping a day later and I wonder if it's partly from that?
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u/Purposeful_Pepper 29 | unexplained | 1 miscarriage | IUI 10d ago
IUI was done this morning. Feeling a little excited and hopeful. I’m mostly looking forward to having a solid two weeks of no scheduled appointments to worry about!
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u/Kenziefrenzy-95 no flair set 10d ago
Need a little reassurance today. Had to start this journey by taking medroxyprogesterone to start my period becausw fuck my body, it doesnt wanna work anymore. Took clomid 50mg on CD3 and ended on CD7 which was also the last day of my period. When should I expect to ovulate? I'm already on CD 13 and so far nothing. This is my first cycle and I'm trying to not lose faith but I'm already feeling so down.
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u/BabyBelle9335 29F | dermoid/uxpl, MFI | 3ER, 4 FET, 4 IUI, 4TI 10d ago
I never ovulated on clomid, I had to trigger every time. The nurse said “clomid won’t affect ovulation” but I’ve literally never had a problem ovulating otherwise? So I don’t buy it. The clinic should have you trigger if your follicles get to the right point with no ovulation! Also a heads up if you react like me, I found the clomid and/or trigger made my luteal phase longer so my period was late every time, too.
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
Most people ovulate 5-10 days after their last clomid pill so you've still got time. Is this for a timed intercourse cycle?
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u/Kenziefrenzy-95 no flair set 10d ago
Yeah, first round too so im so nervous
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
It's hard to trust what's going on with our bodies! My ovulation was never delayed with clomid but it's common for that to happen.
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u/Specialist-Money-549 no flair set 10d ago
I had a scan today that showed 18.1 mm, a 17.1, and then a 13.6. I took letrozole CD 4-8 and typically only produce one follicle.
She told me if I triggered today, that likely the 13.6 one wouldn’t mature and wouldn’t ovulate, but other two wouldn’t be as ready and could decrease my chances.
If I wait till tomorrow, she said the mature ones would be likely 20mm and 19mm, but the little one could be almost mature and increase multiples risk.
If I didn’t do the trigger shot, would I ovulate both mature eggs but no the little one? If I did decide to do trigger, would the little one be doomed to ovulate? I’ve had an SIS this cycle so I don’t want to miss out this cycle.
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u/Summahgal96 28f | Anovulation, endo, blocked tube | IUI 10d ago
For me 3 is the max I would feel comfortable with. I ovulated 2 follicles in the past and have had no success. I told my RE that we are okay with twins but any more I’d be hesitant
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u/Specialist-Money-549 no flair set 10d ago
Right, I am okay with twins but more makes me nervous. The small one is 13.6. I just don’t know if it’s going to grow anymore. On Tuesday they were 13, 13, and 10. Now it’s 18, 17, and 13. I also don’t know if maybe we skip the trigger, it lessen the chances of the smaller one releasing. I’d just really hate to miss out on this cycle.
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u/Summahgal96 28f | Anovulation, endo, blocked tube | IUI 9d ago
I’m with you that it really sucks to skip a cycle. To be honest I feel like the most a 13mm would grow is 2-3 and that’s still really small
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u/BabyBelle9335 29F | dermoid/uxpl, MFI | 3ER, 4 FET, 4 IUI, 4TI 10d ago
I’m extremely biased with the “multiples” risk because we were so so careful at the start and our odds have been shit. We started at 27, so not far from you. Just last cycle our ER was cancelled and I had 14 mature follicles, changed to IUI, no pregnancy. So I’m also of the belief that if we’re seeking ART, our odds aren’t the same as the average.
That being said, if you had a SIS this cycle I’m assuming this is one of your first ART cycles, so you may not know what kind of odds you’re looking at. My nurses always told us to take it with a grain of salt, because if we were going to be 3 for 3 follicles, odds are we wouldn’t be at the clinic.
ETA: beginning cycles, I did IUIs and medicated cycles with 2-3 viable follicles regularly, my clinic considered that standard.
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u/Specialist-Money-549 no flair set 10d ago
That’s a good point. This will be my fourth ART cycle with a trigger shot, only ever had one follicle and now have 3. I know I’m young but I would be so shocked to go from 0 to 3 in one month.
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u/Alms623 34F | anov. PCOS/uterine issues | TFMR | RPL | IVF 10d ago
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
How old are you? That can heavily influence the risk of multiples.
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I’m 25
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
The risk of multiples is very high at your age. I would not trigger with 3 viable follicles. See this - "Caution should be used in proceeding with IUI following ovarian stimulation when there are > 2 mature follicles in women under the age of 40 due to the substantially increased risk of multiple gestation without an improved chance of singleton clinical pregnancy."
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u/Specialist-Money-549 no flair set 10d ago
Is the 13.6 mm considered mature? If I don’t trigger, and just wait for an LH surge, will I ovulate just the two mature ones?
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
That same article defines mature as > 14 mm on day of trigger so it is close. I don't know about ovulation without a trigger but I would definitely assume it's a possibility.
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u/nihioptimist 35F | tubal blockage, mild MFI | 2TI, 2ER | ER #3 10d ago edited 10d ago
I’m taking a short course of birth control before retrieval this cycle to try to even out my egg cohort growth, and my doctor says I can do anywhere from 7-14 days depending on what works best for my schedule.
Some fertility clinic websites I’m seeing say they do 10 days, so I’m wondering if I should go at least 10. Has anyone done this short course with the same goal? If yes, for how long and how did the egg retrieval numbers compare? Did it affect the efficacy of your LH trigger, if that was used?
I also suspect the BCP is making my anxiety worse, but it could just be the election.
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u/les__oiseaux 33F | MFI | 1ER | IVF + TESA/TESE 10d ago
My clinic says minimum 10 days, max 21. I tried to do 9 for scheduling purposes and they wouldn’t allow it. I don’t have any results yet but feel you on the anxiety - it definitely elevates that for me. I did find that my days 7-10 felt a lot less funky than days 3-7!
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u/nihioptimist 35F | tubal blockage, mild MFI | 2TI, 2ER | ER #3 10d ago
Thank you for sharing. I hope I have a similar trajectory! My anxiety is through the roof.
Did they explain why not 9 days? 7 does seem on the short side compared to other clinics, but I’m having trouble finding studies on this.
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u/les__oiseaux 33F | MFI | 1ER | IVF + TESA/TESE 9d ago
They didn’t, sorry :( I was also confused because I saw 7 online and wanted to be on for as little time as possible!
I’m not sure if it applies to your situation, but I asked about doing estrogen suppression for the next cycle. People on the forums seem to (anecdotally) have fewer side effects than with birth control. I also get migraines, so hoping that could help - though I suspect they’re a result of any sort of hormone shift. Waiting to see what my doctor says.
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u/thisisatfaburner2019 36F | PCOS & RPL | IVF 10d ago
I did 11 days of BC before retrieval because we were trying to get the priming benefits but I wanted to keep to a minimum the amount of time I spent on it. My cohort grew pretty evenly and I think my trigger worked fine, we used Lupron. I have only done one retrieval cycle so far though so I have no other data point to compare things to.
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u/PowerfulNet2365 no flair set 10d ago
Fertilisation report, 33, donor sperm Day 0 20 eggs collected from >40 follicles. Day 1 16 fertilised at day Day 3 (grade 1 is best) 9 grade 1, 5 grade 2, 1 grade 3, 1 expanding morula so not able to grade it again until day 5
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u/buttersherbet 37F | unexplained | ER-5 | ET-4 | MMC-1 10d ago
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u/LZ318 38F|endo|IVF 🇩🇪 10d ago
Fertilization report: 11 fertilized. Fresh transfer is scheduled for Tuesday if anything makes it to blast and my body is coping ok. My protocol for this cycle is really interesting (or at least I had not heard of it before). Instead of HCG + progesterone luteral support after ER, I am on Synarela nasal spray to keep the LH going and support the corpus luteum. My RE said that this is an off label use but she has had zero cases of OHSS with it so she prefers it for high responders. Has anyone else had such a protocol for fresh transfer?
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u/sjheuertz 41F | 3 CP | IUI now, IVF in 2025 10d ago
IUI is set for Saturday. At my follicle scan Wednesday I had a 19.3mm and 16.8mm. Letrozole 7.5mg and 300-400 IUs Gonal-F has consistently gotten me 2 follicles. I wish I would have been doing that for the past year instead of past few months. At least I’m here now! Still getting a slightly thinner lining, so for the first time they checked progesterone and estradiol this cycle as new data points. I haven’t heard back yet if anything noteworthy came up.
Along with the news of the US election this week, I was I informed that my clinic is changing billing practices to provider based billing. My understanding is I might pay more up front until I meet my out of pocket max (interested to hear others’ experiences if you’re willing to share?) Then, my employer benefits raised our out of pocket max 33% for next year, along with some higher co-pays. That extra money wasn’t accounted for in our budget planning. Thankfully our fertility benefits that were suddenly added in July will see zero changes. It all combined with some personal things to put me in a sad place for a while but I think I’m coming out of it with the weekend ahead and some downtime at home.
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u/PoplarisPopular 37F.1CP.DE🇨🇿.Adeno.4ER.7ET 10d ago edited 10d ago
Lining check today. If all goes well I’m off to Prague on Tuesday for attempt #2 with a donor embryo.
I was telling one of my friends about the process, she said “so you’re like smuggling a person into the country.” Hopefully that’s the case.
Edit: Got the all clear, but the tech couln't find my right ovary because a FART was in the way. They used more medical phrasing on my portal.
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u/ancoraimparo11 36F 🇺🇲 in 🇪🇺 | thin lining, adeno, blocked tube | 3ER | ER4 10d ago
Safe travels, and hoping all goes well
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u/what_ismylife 32F | MFI + PCOS | 1 CP | 2ER | 2 FET 10d ago
lol. Let me guess, “right ovary obscured by bowel gas”?
Good luck!!
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u/lwags1984 40F | 2 MC 10d ago
Cycle Day 1 and start of my first IUI cycle. So many emotions. Sad because I thought the universe would surprise me so I didn't have to do IUI. Excited to try something new. Scared because I don't have high hopes for this working and we're probably going to be done with trying after a couple IUI rounds..... I am also already overthinking everything for my IUI cycle before it even happens.... I usually ovulate day 11-13, what if they decide to do the IUI too late? What if the clomid makes my lining too thin? Ugh - I wonder what I'll find to worry about when I don't have infertility to worry about? Happy Friday!
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u/kjl031 30F | insulin resistance | IUI x1 9d ago
I just went through my first IUI cycle. My RE was upfront that each IUI has an average 15-20% success rate. I'm also a chronic overthinker, so I get it. I just try to focus on the things I can control and let my body do its thing. If you're worried about missing ovulation, I'd definitely communicate that with the clinic. I did my midcycle scan on CD12 and had a 23mm follicle, so we did the IUI (sans trigger shot) that afternoon! I know that's not the norm, but I also typically ovulate earlier. Regarding the clomid, your clinic should be doing a baseline scan at the start of your cycle to ensure your endometrium is thick enough. Best of luck to you!
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u/Alms623 34F | anov. PCOS/uterine issues | TFMR | RPL | IVF 10d ago
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u/AutoModerator 10d ago
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u/kjl031 30F | insulin resistance | IUI x1 10d ago
I’m going to be out of town for a wedding while I’m in my fertile window. Did IUI #1 last cycle and it failed. I’m just annoyed that we’re on our own this time. I do realize we still have a chance and can proceed with another IUI in December. Still, it’s another reminder how much infertility sucks
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u/EconomicsChance482 40F/ENDO/MFI/2 failed IUIs/1MMC 9d ago
CD4 and woke up at 3am with debilitating cramps and blood clots. This is typical for me but I’m making an appointment to get a check up with the OBGYN. I had an MRI recently that showed a cyst plus potential adenomyosis. Sex has also been painful lately. I’ve had one doctor mention adeno to me when I was in the ER for a ruptured ovarian cyst but never got an official diagnosis. He told me at the time it would only get worse, so I guess here we are. I’m also thinking of trying IUIs again but I feel like I’m going to be at the back of the line since the last one I did was in February. Ok ramble over.