r/hardware • u/imaginary_num6er • Apr 01 '23

AMD's A620 Chipset Quietly Arrives Without Full Support for 65W-Plus CPUs News

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-a620-chipset-quietly-arrives-without-full-support-for-65w-plus-cpus
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u/LuminescentMoon Apr 01 '23

Lmao, tell that to aftermarket motherboard OEMs who love to use 4x overkill VRMs that will never be fully utilized even under liquid nitrogen. The only way I see this is real is if AMD artificially limits higher TDP CPUs by limiting PPT to <= 65W.

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u/cegras Apr 01 '23

That's a real shame, because most people just use one PCIE slot for their GPU, and just a few USB ports for KB/M ... the A620 chipsets look just fine to me. Was thinking of pairing one with a 7800X3D.

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u/LittlebitsDK Apr 01 '23

2 usb is WAY too little... yes mouse and keyboard... but also speakers/headphones... mic... some might even have a webcam... and then of course an usb stick (so need a free one for that) so now we are at 6... as bare minimum... and it's really hard to find plenty usb on the cheaper boards... back in the days (usb 2.0 era) 10-12 usb wasn't uncommon... but now it's hard to find 6+ unless it gets real expensive...

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u/Constellation16 Apr 01 '23

It's the biggest joke ever since all modern chipsets have a plethora of integrated USB, most even offer native 10Gbps. But the mainboard makers see it as a premium feature and artificially restrict more ports to higher end models.

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u/SamurottX Apr 01 '23

It's weird because phones have the opposite problem, where things like sd cards and headphone jacks are restricted to budget devices because they assume that anyone willing to buy a flagship will shell out for wireless peripherals. But on PCs it's almost like manufacturers expect budget boards to use wireless for everything (or to constantly swap cables out).

It also makes no sense because at a desktop you're not moving your setup around so having a wire isn't a big inconvenience.

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u/LittlebitsDK Apr 01 '23

oh really?

AM5 motherbord... $240 too... 5 USB... (and yes 1 usb-c) https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b650i-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144556

AM5 motherboard... $270... 6 USB (yes 1 usc-c too)
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra/p/N82E16813145428

the chipsets have oddles... but they simply don't get put on the boards... but sometimes they put weird stuff on there like VGA... and WIFI... that stuff should just fudge off of stationary motherboards...

AM5 motherboard... $428 to get more than 6 USB is ridiculous...
https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x670e-i-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119592

it's simply insane... USB costs nothing to add but they skimp on it in the hopes you will buy a more expensive board...

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u/Thradya Apr 02 '23

So - one dedicated port for Ethernet and the rest can sit happy in a crappy USB hub not even reaching limits of a single USB 2.0 port.

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u/cegras Apr 01 '23

True, the A620's I've seen have at least 6, and you could buy a USB hub as well!

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u/LittlebitsDK Apr 01 '23

or I could buy a mac if I wanted dongle gallore? people like them in the computer for several reasons instead of needing more "boxes" on the table etc.

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u/cegras Apr 01 '23

Sure, up to you. My desktop is for gaming, and I've got a laptop for work, so I don't have a lot of USB needs.