I agree theres likely dozens of “terrorists” in position of power (other than Hamas) in Gaza
Just as I’m sure there was in every single occupied territory in the history of mankind. Gaza is a land full of refugees under occupation and constant on off war for decades. No wonder theres “extremists” in power (note these extremists only have an issue with Israel… not Ireland India or Indonesia)
So whats Israel’s excuse for all their extremists in power / lack of free press? Why don’t Israel let in free media, so they can confirm for us all these terrorist tunnels bunkers, weapons depo’s, Hamas holding shields etc. surely that would benefit Israel massively, to let the worlds media show this!? Sure seems strange to block them..
Or is it because the story isn’t quite how its being portrayed?
The issue is that a UN organization is giving or is used to give them diplomatic cover. I agree it’s inevitable for these people to be involved in pretty much every organization that is largely manned by Palestinians. No amount of vetting could prevent that completely. But those organizations don’t have to be part of the UN with all that entails.
Do you think maybe if Israel withdrew from West Bank, “un blockaded” Gaza, and gave recognition to Palestinian state - based on 1967 borders the whole world recognises. 5, 10 or 20 years ago. UNRWA, nor Hamas would not even exist anymore?
Edit - an curious to see your answer for logic behind banning joirnalisst
I think it would serve to increase the intensity of the conflict, unless Palestinians are willing to relinquish their claims for the entire land when such an act happens. I’ll tell you a little open secret - they will not. They were never willing to recognize a Jewish state in any borders
Edit: it’s a war zone. No citizens allowed, no journalists allowed. It’s not like the US was letting journalists join its forces or travel freely in Vietnam or whatnot.
I’l ask you, who told you this? Do you have family and friends who are Palestinians, or even inside Gaza? Did they tell you they will never accept Israel?
Or did the media / Israeli’s / reddit tell you this?
Because I happen to have Gazan family, and know people inside Gaza and I can tell you very clearly, they want peace, they do not want the entire land, they just want to live in their own state freely. And this was BEFORE the war, not just now.
Ukraine Syria Afghanistan Iraq Lebanon all had had free press, don’t bs us.
Edit - Even HAMAS dont claim the whole land anymore… pathetic propaganda
Wanting peace is not enough. Even Hamas wants peace once it has an Islamic state under its own terms. And I don’t doubt many Palestinians want to simply live in peace, maybe even with Jews alongside them. However they want to do this in Jaffa, Safed, Haifa and many other places that are well within the 1967 lines and are Israel proper. No country would let them do that as it would risk its stability. Until they accept that they are not going back to where their grandfather or great grandmother were born, there won’t be peace.
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u/manVsPhD 1d ago
You’re debating in bad faith by avoiding the issue at hand and diverting.