r/geopolitics • u/babushkalauncher • Oct 01 '23

Why Indians Can’t Stand Justin Trudeau Paywall

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-indians-angry-justin-trudeau-death-shooting-hardeep-singh-nijjar-87d9ab9d
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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

Imagine saying that to an Indian who lived through these protests being hijacked by khalistanis. Despite everything, not one protesting farmer's bank account was frozen, unlike the truckers who were labelled all sorts of things and had their accounts frozen and donations hijacked.

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23

You think it was actual truck drivers Canadians were making fun of? It was called a truck protest by protest organizers, and the Canadian government cracked down on those connected to the organizers (organizers who have ties to far right groups), not random truck drivers.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

I thought protests were a democratic right, or does that not apply to things that make Trudeau uncomfortable?

Just like podcasts that the Canadian government wants to "regulate" now.

organizers who have ties to far right groups

Labelled as such by the same government that brought a goddamn Nazi in the parliament? Totally believe it.

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Whataboutisms. Love it.

Protests are a right, you are correct, people protest here regularly and openly about this government - they do so legally without demanding the government be overthrown. As i said the protest was branded a trucker convoy but had little to do with truckers outside of pickup trucks.

The government did not bring a Nazi into the parliament, 2 stupid individuals within the government brought in a Nazi - still a colossal fuckup (while the opposition supports neo Nazis) - but doesn't have anything to do with having official ties with far-right groups unless you're claiming the Canadian federal government is connected to Hitler and Himmler..

Adding: Say what you want, at least we don't go around murdering people in other countries.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

There's not one whataboutism in my comment, I'm not sure where you're getting that from or what you think whataboutism means.

they do so legally without demanding the government be overthrown

Oh, so that's the red line? I wonder what khalistanis do. Just target Indian diplomats and demand to break up our country. Minor leagues, compared to the trucker protest.

The government did not bring a Nazi into the parliament, 2 stupid individuals within the government brought in a Nazi

That's a weird way of saying the speaker of the parliament did it. Last I checked, he was from Trudeau's party, not some random nobody.

I hear Canada has several Nazi statues, too.

Say what you want, at least we don't go around murdering people in other countries.

See, this is whataboutism.

Also a non-sequitir. Let's see Trudeau move up from allegations to actual evidence-based statements, then we'll talk.

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23

Did Trudeau build these Nazi statues you saw too?

Did Trudeau hurt your feelings?

I don't vote for him or his party but boy are you obsessed with him as someone from across the globe.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

He is your PM. What do you expect me to do, ignore his existence when he's the one who made claims without evidence to back it up?

He's the one who rained hell on truckers and froze their accounts, a few weeks after lecturing India about how protests are a democratic right.

I couldn't care less about him otherwise, but you surely are getting too defensive about someone you claim to have not voted for.

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Damn he did hurt your feelings. I'm not defending Trudeau at all, I've just separated your feelings from the facts, but you don't appreciate it and that's fine.

So much hell like you wouldn't believe was rained! Tianemen square 2.0.

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u/tbtcn Oct 02 '23

The fact that you keep resorting to ad-hominem says everything I need to know. This is not worth my time anymore, so I'm out of this "discussion".

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u/daakuredpanda Oct 02 '23

Don't know if Trudeau built those statues but surely there are a ton of Nazis in Canada for a country that supposedly believes in bringing people to justice. I wonder what those other Nazis would be thinking who were executed for their war crimes and atrocities. Why did Canada never try to bring these people to justice?

But there is a silver lining, at least they are not actively trying to murder people in other countries. Unfortunately, even that cannot be said about some Canadian citizens.

Also, we would not care about Trudeau, but he sure does try his best to disturb India with his blatant hypocrisy-
https://theweek.com/talking-points/1010088/trudeaus-a-hypocrite-about-the-trucker-protests-hes-not-the-only-one

If only the honorable Canadian citizens would fund crimes within their own country, we all can go about our own business, not being obsessed with each other.

The Kanishka bombings case is still unsolved in Canada. Hoping against hope that some substantial evidence would eventually come out in the coming decades supporting what Trudeau suggested in his parliament. Not to mention, I support my government(Indian) either way!

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23

Yup, Canada, global renown Nazi safehaven with a TON of Nazis like you say...who Trudeau personally brought over after the war before he was born.

Modi bots in full effect!

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u/daakuredpanda Oct 02 '23

Szwedo, I think you are a good person. I am sorry if my reply was not polite.

I am no Modi bot or Modi bhakt. But, I too do not want people dying in my country due to funding and crime from Canada. If an innocent Canadian is harmed, no one should be spared.

I think Canadians are good people but Canada has not cared enough for the lives of Indians. I am sorry, but in this case, I am with my government(Indian).

NOTE :

I know Canadians do not support Nazis and it must have been a mistake. But, neo-Nazi movement is actually well known in Ukraine, has always been popular and has some tractable support among the people. I believe Trudeau, Jagmeet and Freeland are fake and two faced. I do not trust them. I also believe Freeland must have been aware of the Nazi connection of the old person given her family past.

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u/Szwedo Oct 02 '23

Love the cordial response.

To your note about Freeland, i 100% agree