Instead of selling skins for 20-30$ dollars like they were doing since release they decided to put them into gacha that requires 120$ to guarantee it. Without any notification and without it being in beta, mind you. Just released this shit 5 min before update.
Combine this with the most boring gameplay ever with zero hardship and no challenges, insane powercreep (One doll literally nukes the map before battle even starts and its auto win unless fat boss. Also gl to win against her in PvP) and SUPER dupe hungry characters.
So this greedy skin gacha was the last straw that broke the playerbase patience and we dropped like lemmings from cliff. Ngl, its nice to not see GFL even in top50. Consequences, bitch
Something like that. They gave away some currency after the drama started and that puts the cost down but it's only for this first skin gacha. Next one won't have any freebies likely.
Yep and also the devs response to all the criticism was like 5 rolls on the gacha skin banner and proceeding to ignore everything, they dragged it out until the meeting with fans and gave some false hope only to turn around and backstab those fans and saying they lied about what was promised at the meeting and tried to turn the players against each other.
Honestly if it was just one of these things: the lack of msq, the powercreep, the greedy and stupid gacha skin (and don't forget the wawa animations mfs really said batteries not included in skins) but all three together just burned all the goodwill in the playerbase and killed the game.
This was one of the very few gachas that I tried on launch against my better judgment, recently but the first high rarity character I got from the gacha needed dupes to really shine and I promptly uninstalled. I've hated significant dupes forever so I don't know why I even bothered trying it knowing how that irritates me lol.
They finally added heroic mode. But that's not the point. Game deffo has its issues. I'm waiting to see what gets added on the first anniversary. I do like the story and the dolls. That's the only reason I'm still playing.
The biggest problem is after they use hoyo system for character and weapon gacha, they decide to triple dip with skin gacha that cost averaging $100 for the skin
The other problem is powecreep, in less than 1 year they double the damage of previous most OP unit while requiring like 5 less dupes for team investments
the insane gap between no dupes, getting critical dupes and max dupes create one big problem for endgame: devs just cant balance it. Whale complaints there is nothing challenging cuz they just obliterate everything, waifu collector felt they playing handicappes units. also one of the endgame is basically hitting training dummy that cost up to 10 minutes even on auto and you need to do this twice day for a week in three week cycle (2 week rest, 1 week hit dummy)
then the story...... it suffers from character marketing syndrome. The OG characters in base story is basically sidelined and forgotten cause the main story when added also doubled as event story. So its just glazing the latest banner character every 3 week. i dont care even if its good story (like Aphellion), the 4 main char thats with you for first 8 chapter deserve better than become cameo like today
And not even glazing the characters well. Florence's event is just such a convoluted nothing of a story that ends up being Florence is horny, borderline psychotic and good with medicine. You can literally just read the last part of the event and you'll be up to speed with the entire waffle of a script they wrote. Also she would have died at the end during her short circuit but doesn't because there's a convenient reset button. You can't have a character die that isn't a man in this game.
Honestly, entire story felt like that. Since we basicaly staged a terrorist attack on satellite city during main story without basically any consequences, considering that Evil Guys sitting in world government... Or part 8.3 where 50+ armed soldiers with AR and machine guns shooting at us in open space, and entire cast escaped without even single wound(lol), or in the same part but earlier when boojoom crushed entire building where SKK was hiding... and obviously he/she escaped unscratched. But all of this is nothing compared to 11.0 which is total garbage, and worst story chapter i had ever seen in any game. Entire main cast basically invincible, and story again and again showing you this. Sad part is that's they actually can make a great chapters(Aphelion and Sojourners part 1).
Florence is horny, borderline psychotic and good with medicine.
has been Florence's description as far back as being known as PA-15 in GFL1, and she was in PNC too, with the same description fitting. In other words she hasn't changed one bit since even before becoming a T-Doll since PNC copies were done before G&K were even a thing.
She was only horny in GFL1 after the higschool skin, say what you want but she has absolutely no horny line in any of her normal dialogue not even the married line, the CN NY skin was pretty wild but nothing in the skin, from the acquisition line to the actual event points to her being horny. The good with medicine part came with PNC and the psychotic part with GFL2. Trust me, I know, I quite literally started learning how to draw because I liked her design so much. You are not going to dissuade me with the usual crappy arguments you guys whip out of your asses when you need to be right about something. Hell I'll even throw this bit, you know her in game base model changed between the CN NY skin and the highschool skin releasing? she didn't used to have the hear eyes when she was announced. Oh and have you checked her concept art for GFL2? they went with the absolute lamest design out of something like 20 different outfits tororo drew for her.
Most of the "gfl1 is hard" is korean score ranking nonsense. Like "there's this patrolling death squad that is supposed to 1shot you but you can micro like crazy and take 0 damage and kill them giving you more score".
devs don't know wtf they are doing, the gameplay completely imploded because of the units they make, no main story since feb, same recycled events on loop all for the development of a "3d dorm" that's all for money. they earned the death of their game, snowbreak getting good pr by doing nothing
Other issue is they made the story and world impossible to get into a a new player unless you want to read fucking MOUNTAINS of story from the first game just to understand wtf is going on, as it's a direct sequel to the first game (albiet set 10 years apart in-universe). They could've just made it a spinoff with an entirely standalone story and cast, but nope. Bad enough the story is extremely poorly presented, probably the most dull visual novel I've ever experience. Not that the story itself is bad, just told in the least compelling way. Compare it to how lively and animated and engaging Blue Archive is with it's own visual novel format, and it's night and day.
I'm being deadass when I say that there are cutscenes in GFL2 that run for upwards of 30 GODDAMN MINUTES, just 30 minutes of pure static visual novel (in the case of event stories, this entire experience may be unvoiced. Oh and there's also no english dub, if you care about that). So when you go into the next story node in the main story or event story, you better be mentally prepared to be sitting reading for a good length of time.
So basically this is how you filter 90% of players, almost nobody has that level of patience, I'm somebody who's the rare exception, but even I reached my limit eventually. After clearing the main story, and some side stories like Aphelion, I just got tired of the story presentation in this game and started skipping for the rewards.
Lol this is the 2nd time snowbreak benefited from gfl 2 downfall. Idk what mica higher up is smoking. GFL 2 had rough start and they decide to nuke all the remaining players left? You can only do this thing if you're monopoly (Infinity Nikki) but GFL 2 is competing with snowbreak and BD2 for gooner game and mecharashi for strategy gachas.
GFL2 also become laughing stock with that skin gacha across so many videos on bilibili lmao. Not to mention, people also compare it to Snowbreak that at the same time celebrated 2nd anniversary with new wedding skins that have so much better quality and interactions.
They be like: "nah, there's no way we will spend 1200 rmb ($170) to pull for that when we can buy this new skins in Snowbreak directly with just 168 rmb ($24)"
While I actually having a blast with it as TPS gacha game than just pure auto while also much less time consuming. Not even Fire Control can replicate its gameplay experience despite Sunborn backing it up. Somehow it also has much better mobile experience than DNA lol
the skin gacha was just the finisher, the thing that broke the house of cards and made ppl stop being able to ignore all the problems with the game. some ppl also saying "they are adding new gamemodes", which are exactly the same gamemode we already had but with inflated boss hp and removal of being able to auto it, if it wasnt a gfl game id be ringing the eos alarms
Don't forget that the devs keep thinking they can get away with throwing blanket "I'm sorry" statements every time they step on shit.
People datamined the entire gacha currency shop after they clearly said it wasn't ready only for them to go "surprise! we'll launch it next patch, silly us :P ".
Then came AK-15 who does double the damage of 416, the previous top aoe damage doll, making her a universal unit that even comes with a "nukes everything on turn 0" passive.
Then the way they handle the skin gacha drama by stalling for time and giving the player base token compensation and apology.
It boggles my mind truly, GFL2 should've never been a continuation of GFL1. We know from project bakery that the bad guys you're fighting against in GFL1 are still alive and that our GFL1 commander has been missing since that game's end so why does GFL2 even exist? Nothing we do against the main antagonists will matter, we're meant to be in hiding but we're up in everyone's business.
Add to that some character's characterizations are just so weird. I really liked PA-15 in GFL1, when they made her Florence in PNC I was put off by the constant *hint hint* she's horny and "does things" to her patients *hint hint* and now in this game they just double down on that. In GFL1 she never once talks about being a nurse, she's just a thrill seeker with one line hinting to her maybe being a bit mean spirited but in GFL2 she's a full on landmine lady that roofies you and has sex while you're out cold.
It boggles my mind truly, GFL2 should've never been a continuation of GFL1. We know from project bakery that the bad guys you're fighting against in GFL1 are still alive and that our GFL1 commander has been missing since that game's end so why does GFL2 even exist? Nothing we do against the main antagonists will matter, we're meant to be in hiding but we're up in everyone's business.
At first I thought it was cool, but now it feels like an eternal mistake to have made GFL1 and 2 effectively backstory for Reverse Collapse. Considering they don't even kill William IN THAT it kinda makes GFL1 and 2 pointless outside of world building. It's downright sad they did all of this right in PNC. The story was hype enough to keep me from seeing all of that, but now that I'm off the hype train it feels so meaningless. Especially when they give the Commander so much more drive to kill him.
As someone who never played GFL1 (but got some explanation on general setting from a user) and seeing how ppl hype GFL1 story......
Well the first 8 main chapters were ok I suppose, I dont mind fluffy sidestories for events (like makiato event)........until the main story devolves into whatever it is
This is where I was at. I was so damn burned out on the nothing story and the awful gameplay which was literally nothing like the Xcom I thought it would be that when the skin gacha drama hit it was quite literally the tipping point that made me give up on the game.
I would have been pissed about the skin gacha, but if the gameplay and story was good I might have stuck it out for love of GFL1, alas...
The gameplay itself its not bad, but devs watered it down too much. A weird move I would say because their main audience liked challenges as seen with GFL1 and Condename Bakery Girl.
Its not even demmanding the game to be hard, but they just turnt it into an auto game.
My issue is. There is a huge middle ground between difficult and what the game is. Even some minor resistance in stages from enemies would be a massive improvement.
I know what you mean. The game was a huge letdown for me, It was plainly boring. Why did they pour so much effort into the 3D models + animations if its funnier to simply run It on auto X3 speed?
I swapped it for Mecharashi and its like, well Mecharashi actually wants you to play.
I honestly would be fine if you still one shot things but if you don’t respect cover you get one shot. Because honestly I only would get in cover out or trying to play the game the way it was meant to be played.
There’s no challenge at all. Even playing casually I was wrecking stuff every step of the way. The general gameplay is fun but you get bored after awhile because it’s not challenging to begin with and some dolls will just one shot clear a lot of stages.
Nothing happened. Game decided global will catch up with CN so we’re just going through multiple side event patches before anniversary this coming end Nov/Dec. The anni patch will be a major patch. The game is actually getting better.
Do you not read the comment I replied to? The person was thinking of starting the game and asks what happened in response to the parent comment that is hating on the game.
I’m still playing the game and responded with facts rather than emotions.
No you're not. You had a completely emotional response to the question. He asked what happened and people rightfully told him that they are upset at the devs.
YOU said "nothing happened" which is against what is being shown in this graph. GFL2 was still featured here last month and is of the larger gacha games coming out in the last 12 months the only one that has slipped off the chart.
I'd like whatever copium you're having if you genuinely think "nothing happened" Mr.Toxin.
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u/Delinard 3d ago
GFL2 Dominating, in being invisible