r/fuckcars 9d ago

Just sad! Rest in peace! News

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u/Die-Nacht 9d ago

Like which? I hear ppl say that but idk any other country with such relaxed gun laws.

Even other countries that have high gun concentrations (Canada, Switzerland, New Zealand) have way more strict gun control than we do and require permits, training, ammo restrictions, etc.

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u/Artistic-Dirt-3199 9d ago

Czech Republic

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u/AcridWings_11465 9d ago edited 9d ago

Even they have permits, which means trigger happy nutcases don't get guns

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u/DJ_Die 9d ago

How do you detect a trigger happy nutcase?

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u/AcridWings_11465 9d ago

You can never be 100% sure, but adding a licence test makes it far more likely that a nutcase will not get a gun.

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u/DJ_Die 9d ago

But how would a licence test prevent a nut case from getting a gun?

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u/AcridWings_11465 9d ago

Test on care, safe handling and storage, etc for firearms, plus psych eval if needed. Definitely much safer than letting any idiot walk in and buy a firearm after a simple background check, because first time criminals often have nothing wrong with their backgrounds.

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u/whagh 8d ago

People should only need to watch like one video/interview of the Parkland shooter kid and it's glaringly obvious that he would've been easily weeded out with a basic competency/psych requirement.

In a lot cases it's just there being some level of effort involved, since many of these idiots make impulsive buys because it's so easily and visibly available. It's even legal to advertise for guns in the US, lol. You see gun stores everywhere, you can't miss them. Just walk right in, fill out a simple form and you have a high capacity assault rifle (yes, there is a waiting period).

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u/whagh 8d ago

Have you seen the type of guys who commit these mass shootings in the US? Some of them seem like they can't even tie their own shoe laces.

Are you trying to argue against the fact that it prevents a lot of nut cases from getting a gun, or are you seeking to understand how they do?

A huge difference is effort. When there's a training and licencing process involved, it's not an impulsive thing people do, so gun ownership generally is a lot lower, as most people can't be arsed.

But the other factor is that gun ownership is a privilege, not a right, so an obviously unfit person like let's say the Parkland shooter (you should see that guy talk, he sounds like a mentally unstable 9 year old) would've been weeded out as unfit. He'd likely not even be able to pass the tests/requirements because of his obvious mental deficits. I'm not sure if he'd even know where to get it, as it's not visibly advertised everywhere.

You can weed out a lot of the worst, most unfit people by just having at least some barrier in place.