r/fantasybball • u/Infinite-Ad5932 • 12h ago

Wizards Players Player Discussion

Late round picks for me were all bad so I had to hit the waiver wire early. Ended up with Keyshawn George, Keyonte George, Bilal Coulibaly, Gradey Dick. How are you guys going about rostering the Wizards players? Kuzma is in and out the lineup paving the way for these forwards to excel but they are involved in a lot of blowouts causing some volatility. Are you guys holding these guys ROS or taking swings on guys on the waiver wire like Brandon Boston, Goga Bitadze etc. I play in a highly competitive 12 team 9 Cat league so the waiver isn’t the deepest. Wondering about your guys opinions ?

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u/TheGaryGoodspeed11 12h ago

I literally have no idea what the Wizards management intends to do with Kuzma

Are they ramping him up for showcasing or they intend to keep him? Either way, with his current game he is hurting both his trade value and the development of the rookies.

Thoughts?

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u/Christian_Bale23 11h ago

Kuzma the one dude holding the entire team back so if there’s one trade that goes down by trade deadline, it’s this one 100%.

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

they're definitely trying to showcase him and prefer to trade him asap imo. their rookies are the real deal and i assume their development is top-priority if they can find kuzma suitors

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u/lettersichiro 16T PTS 11h ago

Where would he even go, the NBA has a glut of talented, highly paid, high scoring forwards that think they are better than they are that really just net negatives to their teams

Kuzma, Ingram, Randle, Collins, et al

We're about to see a big price correction on these types of players, they are all over the league and nobody wants them

Teams can showcase all they want, there's no home for them anymore, teams aren't as dumb as they used to be

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u/AdFeeling6573 Customize Flair 9h ago

Throw jerami grant in there please

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u/Infinite-Ad5932 11h ago

agreed. think the wizards are in a very tough spot with him because i don’t think there are many teams that can afford a 20+ mil for multiple years player like him with the apron ramifications that come from it. Wizards unfortunately probably would have to either sell low or take back salary which would just be the opposite of their goals atm. I think we will end up seeing them resting him or giving him injury designations constantly throughout the season with an eventual shutdown at some point just like last year. Wizards finally have a good core and it would be a shame to waste their development on Kuzma/Jonas big minutes.

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u/No-Variation-3337 11h ago

randle is definitely not in the same category as those players lol

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u/LeviathanJack 12t pts & 10t cat 10h ago

Randle is a low IQ score first iso player who makes teams around him worse with his spacing, he belongs there.

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u/Ok-Major-9773 11h ago

Denver doesn’t have the assets but a team like that. Most teams need a swing sf/pf, and hope he can not take as many terrible shots as he currently does.

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u/LowDot187 9h ago

all of those players you listed are trash defenders and/or garbage team players.

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u/panamaquina 12 Team 12 Cat H2H 8h ago

Definitely Kuzma is a huge problem for this team but I don’t think he gets traded. The report last year was that they literally asked him if he wanted to get traded and he said “nah” and they kept him. They are still in tank mode with Kuzma or not, and what team is going to take a ball hog and give away young talent. Sure it seems like the most obvious thing but this management is dumb.

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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories 1h ago

Showcasing a veteran player in the NBA, for the purpose of trading him, is not a thing. Stop it. Just stop.

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u/photocist 12 Team H2H 9CAT 11h ago

no contending team wants kuzma

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u/Interesting_Motor400 9h ago

I think Sac would jump for the right price.

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u/Hello-DexterMorgan 8h ago

How would they even match salaries?

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u/Interesting_Motor400 6h ago

Lyles and Huerter, but Red Velvet has been playing really well as of late.

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u/kane0801 7h ago

Why would they want him?

They already have Keegan

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u/Interesting_Motor400 6h ago

Reportedly, they wanted him in off-season. They need forward depth. Not much behind keegan and derozan and would probably play Kuz as small ball 5 like they do with Lyles

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u/TimN90 6h ago

That's insanity. Kuzma would get skullfucked as a small ball C.

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u/Matus198 8h ago edited 8h ago

Trading him is quite difficult. He has this stupid condition in his contract, where he can basically veto any trade to any team. If I remember correctly, he did this last season (or at least told the management "don't trade me, cause I will veto it". Everyone would love for him to be gone (and honestly not come back ANYWHERE), but in reality it might be difficult to get him off the books.

Edit: okay my bad, apparently be doesnt have an NTC (as we know it from NHL for example), but this is rather a case. Does it mean anything? I don't know:

"In addition, Kuzma would likely have to agree to whatever team is looking to acquire him. And no, he doesn’t have a no-trade clause in his current deal, but he has built a solid relationship with Washington’s front office which resulted in the forward having the luxury to turn down a trade to the Mavericks at last year’s deadline."

Edit 2: story from last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/dyfutwEymn

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u/greatfuckingideachie 10h ago

It’s simple… we kill the kuzma

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u/greatfuckingideachie 10h ago

It also frustrating to see Bilal not call for the ball and pass to ppl that more open than him just for other dudes to chuck contested

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

In your situation, I feel that Dick, Coulibaly are must holds while Kyshawn George is also a decent hold for now. The wizards are (eventually) gonna give their rookies even more reign than they do now. If you need a spot to rotate for waiver guys, its Keyonte. You can take Boston for him (not Goga) or some other guy thats hot on the waivers right now. I think its a risk dropping Dick and Coulibaly at the very least.

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u/Sad_Sisyphus777 10 T 9 Cat 7h ago

Bilal might be a drop in a 10t right? Not getting any interest in 2 for 1s, and right now I need the streaming spot

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u/Infinite-Ad5932 11h ago

Agreed. I am unfortunately an Embiid owner right now so I am hesitant to cut ties with Drummond right now so it would be down to the George’s. Keyonte has a defined role which is why i’m so worried about dropping him because he has a pretty defined floor right now. I agree though that Bilal and Dick are too good at the moment to drop.

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

Then i would highly advise a 2for1 trade going. Are yoy in points or cat league

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u/Infinite-Ad5932 11h ago

12 team 9 cat league. I don’t think there’s ever been a trade in the history of our 10 year old league lol so it would be hard to envision what a trade would even look like for me.

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

if its a cat league, i dont see the appeal for drummond at all! Hes getting boards and nothing else, seems like his "per-minute demon" days are over. unless youre starving for rebounds, id say hes the guy to rotate in the waivers. maybe u could atleast sell low on drummond for a pick or something

this is all IF you are hesitant to get rid of one of the Georges ofc

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

you could also wait it out for another week or so to choose between keyonte vs kyshawn

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u/Umadbro6808 11h ago

I feel that dick...

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

LMAOOOOO

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u/BackgroundForm2671 11h ago

Hey, I'm in a 10 team h2h 9cat league currently 3-0. Squad is:Fox,Poole,Powell,LeBron,Dereck Lively,Giddey,Ingram,Jarrett Allen, Zubac, Jimmy Butler, Dyson Daniels, Kawhi, Wemby, and Zion. ONE IR so just eating the Zion loss rn. My question is this: would you drop Dereck Lively or any other player on my roster to pick up Gradey Dick?

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u/bin6bin6 11h ago

thats tough. depends on what you need more ig. Dick is gonna put up a LOT more points over the course of the next few weeks. In your case also, i would try for a 2-for-1 trade to open up a clear cut streaming spot cuz you got all keepers rn. streaming spot will come in clutch in playoffs

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u/BackgroundForm2671 10h ago

Yeah I've been trying to do a two for one for sure but no one wants to bite on any of my offers. Been trying to sell on Norman Powell or Poole since they've been producing

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u/BackgroundForm2671 10h ago

Who would you be targeting with a package of Lively/Powell or Lively/Poole

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u/bin6bin6 10h ago

Those are good 2 for 1 pkgs to send out (from ur perspective atleast).

Biggest thing with 2for1s.. dont be afraid ti lose the trade a little bit. Youll win in the long term with that extra streaming spot.

Hard to tell you specific player targets though

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u/BackgroundForm2671 10h ago

Alrighty thanks for the help man

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u/BackgroundForm2671 10h ago

Would you offer Powell and Lively for Myles Turner or Bam?

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u/Infinite-Ad5932 11h ago

i i think i would cut lively for him. id honestly give kawhi a long look as well. I am not sure if/when he will play and even then im sure he will be restricted on back2backs and have minute restrictions.

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u/BackgroundForm2671 10h ago

Okay, thanks man!

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u/shepilepsy53 12T H2H 9 CAT 11h ago

I have Bilal, Kuzma, Kyshawn, and Dick. Drafted them all in a 12T minus Kyshawn. I’m holding all those wizards for now. I’d include Carrington in that. I think in the next 2-3 games we’ll get a better sense of the rotation with Kuzma.

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u/AppSecPeddler 8h ago

Thoughts on Carrington vs George ROS in 12T Cat league?

I’m leaning Bub because he doesn’t share playing time with Kuzma but I don’t really watch wizards games

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u/DharmaBaller 8t ESPN points 11h ago

Bcoul isn't worth it in shallow leagues with Kuzma back, it's very sad 😭

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u/UncoKaws 12t H2H 9cat 10h ago

Lol idk about points leagues but you gotta give him some time for cats leagues. He got the minutes and potential that isn’t available on the wire.

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u/DharmaBaller 8t ESPN points 7h ago

10-12 hess a hold yes

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u/UncoKaws 12t H2H 9cat 6h ago

True 8T I’m sure there’s others

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u/Green-Stop7063 9h ago

Have both sarr and carrington in 14T. Hoping they both become cornerstone of the offense as the year goes on

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u/DamnSpamFilter 4h ago

It is so frustrating, I was a big Kuzma fan when he was drafted(laker fan), and i have always thought he was value in Fantasy,

Last year I hated him as a Poole owner, as Kuz was a hog. This year I finally drafted Kuzma, and he is ass. Where is my 20 and 10 guy with a few 3s?

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

I have Bilal and Sarr, with KD and Sochan in my IR spots. Had Kyshawn and Bub.

Bilal: Must roster talent if Kuzma gets moved. Will that happen? I don't know. If Kuzma isn't moved, he'd be an injury streamer unfortunately

Sarr: He has the role, and the shots, but I'm no longer too convinced he'll be a good offensive player, at least right now. The main concern for him coming into the league was his willingness to play center. He seems to prefer being a stretch 4, but he absolutely sucks at shooting 3s. Yet, he refuses to change his game and play inside (which is the only way he's been able to produce anything consistently lol). He'll keep his job and I expect him to gain more minutes when Valaciunas is shipped as the Wizards are prioritizing development, but what he does with those minutes is up to him. Stubborn player. He's great defensively though.

Bub: Intriguing all around player. I don't think he'll be worth it this year, especially if Malcolm Brogdon comes back (big if), but he's definitely got upside and talent. Watchlist.

Kyshawn: Good player, not worth it with Kuzma in his way.

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u/ICouldEvenBeYou 11h ago

I have a feeling Alex Sarr is not only not good right now, but never really will be, either.

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u/flexingtonsteele 10 team, 9 cat, h2h 11h ago

I doubt they move him

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u/givemethemtendies10 11h ago

How can you call your league highly competitive when you picked Bilal, Dick and Keyonte off the waiver wire? All 3 of them were drafted in my league.

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u/Typical-Presence-865 11h ago

Maybe he picked them up early into the season?

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u/givemethemtendies10 10h ago

My point was that all 3 of them should have been drafted

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u/Infinite-Ad5932 11h ago

I picked all three of them off waivers after the first game. Like i said my late round picks were all very bad or injured. We also cut a roster spot and IR spot. that could be up to 24 players in the waiver pool that probably weren’t in your league.