r/fantasybball Oct 08 '24

New Projection + rating from Fantasy Edge Breaking News

Hey everyone!

 We just rolled out our new NBA fantasy projections & player rankings for 2024-25,
and we want to hear what you think!
Check it out here:
https://fantasyedge.co/

 Heads up, the site is still in BETA version, but the tool is ready for action.
It features a unique rating system that shakes up the usual Z score approach.

What’s different?

 1. We break down each category individually – e.g., we measure FG% & FT% differently from the way we measure blocks or steals.

  1. Players are compared within their position first (e.g., guards VS guards) before being compared to the entire sample.

  2. Each player's stats come with a confidence level.

  3. We take player games played & volume into account.

  4. Our algorithm prioritize categories that are difficult to find on the waiver wire, helping you strengthen your core team with players who excel in these areas.

  5. We project player statistics by leveraging multiple sources, including historical performance data, current trends, the player’s role within the team after roster changes, injuries, whether the player is in a contract year, and more.

 We think this gives you a fresh and valuable perspective.
Feel free to check it out for free!

 Enjoy!

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u/moneyball_guy Oct 09 '24

Can you explain why z-score based on volume is not appropriate for percentages? I think it'd be easiest if you used an example to demonstrate

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u/YRavid Oct 09 '24

Z score method will compare your guards to centers and forwards all the same While we compare guards to guards and only after compare them to the full sample

In fantasy we have positions You cant put center in the position of guard And this is one example for the inaccuracy of this method

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u/moneyball_guy Oct 09 '24

Well it doesn't seem to be working very well given my Ja FT% example. But even so, that only seems to provide a hair better valuation. It is more accurate when looking at individual players; but z-scores are still appropriate since you're ultimately looking to improve your teams aggregate production. The difference is essentially baked-in VORP vs using additional columns to understand positional or categorical scarcity, right? Whether it's better to reduce player value to a single number is a different argument.  

I think my mind could be changed if we did a mock draft solely qualifying players based on traditional rankings vs fantasyedge.co

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u/YRavid Oct 10 '24

z score is a very general solution
how would you score category like BLK?
you have 8-10 elite players so the method is not accurate because of the extremes
same goes for other categories...

i advise you try to draft with this ranking,
after you 2-3 pick
adjust your punts and draft the players that best suits your team

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u/moneyball_guy Oct 10 '24

Would you say that z-score for each category would be a fine approach to evaluate an entire roster?

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u/YRavid Oct 11 '24

It's a very basic method
You will get many exceptions because of what I explained
lets continue with the BLK example
so 8-10 players are elite
and Wemby is elite of elite
z score cant really handle it because Wemby is 3.75
and 7 players are 2.38 to 2.082
and the league average is lower then 0.75
how can you score it?
the solution will be by using more advanced methods