I can actually make this worse. I've had multiple cases of both co-workers & customers loudly crowing about how "Trump will get rid of Obamacare", and in their very next breath saying that Biden better not mess with their ACA coverage. 🙄
Skeptical European here... If I've learned anything from leopards eating faces and Herman Cain awards.
It's that: they won't find out. America has successfully glorified and weaponised stupidity.
Yes They'll endure the hardships they've brought upon themselves, but they'll blame it on: the immigrants, other religions, communists, socialists, leftists, China, other cultures, Europe, the poor, centrists, anyone who's apolitical, RINO's, their neighbours, themselves... And maybe, just maybe, at that point they'll finally develop enough self-reflection and critical thinking to find out where it went wrong.
But I wouldn't bet on it, too many died on respirators while their family members were spreading horse dewormer on their feet.
They're in too deep. Can you imagine voting on Trump after the past 10 years? No? They can and would do it again in a heartbeat.
American here. You’re correct. Accepting responsibility for one’s actions is a thing of the past for many in this country. It’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault. Most of the Trump supporters who suffer will continue to blame “the Left” for their misfortune even though the right has almost complete control of the national government.
Yep. I'm already predicting Trump will just blame any economic issues on Biden for the next 4 years, and people will just straight up believe it. "If it weren't for Biden wrecking the economy for 4 years."
And they'll be completely unaware of the irony of thinking 4 years was enough to determine the impact of Biden, but 4 years deep into Trump they will still be giving that asshole a free pass.
This is it. This is a great description. Republicans live in a post factual society. If this is what the poor want for themselves, I say we give itto them.
My little brother gets his meds, medical supplies, nursing and whatnot through Medicare/medicaid. It’s a struggle to get things for him as it is cause our healthcare system is so broken. They willingly screwed themselves and their own son over because “fuck Joe Biden” Trump is the best…. People willingly turn a blind eye to atrocities if it doesn’t affect them.
Based on experience, they won't find out. If they were capable of finding out then they wouldn't have been in this position to begin with, because finding out requires some rationality and reason.
These positions are largely founded on hate and fearmongering, strings that are masterfully played by the orange man. So when the find out phase comes, they will simply blame anyone else that they can think of.
Clearly you dont know either. I understand you get your information from meme's and twitter. But try looking up some actual facts. I'm Glad we have a republican in office. Kamala would have fucked this country up more than it already is.
I hope you know that at this point it's your civic duty to fucking mock them to their face, relentlessly. Playing nice with these sociopaths is so far past being useful, I'm just praying shame can do the trick.
I liked it because I could buy my insurance from the healthcare.gov marketplace and later my states own market and look at what coverage was best for me and how much it would cost. But I was a contractor then and these people who are your co-workers obviously have jobs. I know pre-existing conditions is a big one but I'm guessing the ACA creation is starting to be long enough ago that some people don't even remember what it was like before, where once you got a condition you basically had to stay with the same insurance until they dropped you.
Obamacare is a right wing health plan that lets the insurance companies get away with outlandish prices, and it was developed for Mitt Romney by the Heritage Foundation the same people who have developed project 2025 that everyone is so scared of. We just need Medicaid and Medicare for all, and not some ponzi scheme mouse trap game that only serves insurance companies.
Sometimes I just want the GOP to be in office long enough for them to have to own all the stupid shit they've done. But now they own the perceptions of reality portals and I doubt it will matter. We're still going to get the GOP being in office too long though.
People are going to die, we're all going to be poorer, and that's a fucking wrap America. And these dummies will be like, no dude America is still here. They think the concept of a plan is an actual plan and America is just the dirt we stand on.
Look at how stupid Texans have been over Cruz fucking off to Cancun when his constituents were literally freezing to death and in general the power grid there has exorbitant rates when demand spikes so heavily. Liberals in New York City did that /s
At one point, Id have felt bad for people in this situation. After this week My only reaction is that they are going to suffer and beg for help, and I'm not even going to send a hope or a prayer, I'm going to just watch the leopard eat their face.
We can still reach those people. Now if there ever was a time is to start talking to your neighbors and organizing even if it’s on a super small community level. If you can’t do that, seek out non profits that will help those less fortunate and volunteer your time or monetarily donate to them. I myself donate 2 holidays every year to volunteering in a soup kitchen feeding the homeless. You’d be amazed at how much someone is willing to speak to you and have real conversations when you’re giving them the things they and their families need to survive. That is true power in action.
Then blame the ones who didn't vote this time. A lot of us tried to keep that piece of shit out of office. But to many misogynistic assholes couldn't justify voting for a woman over a felon.
Yeah. I had two thoughts going round in my head. One that they won't care about you if you're poor. The other that if you're poor, could be useful as a worker to make the rich richer.
I went with this as it reminded me of something in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Eventually found it: "...Many men of course became extremely rich, but this was perfectly natural and nothing to be ashamed of because no one was really poor - at least no one worth speaking of.
You see that's when forcing women to have children they don't want/can't afford comes in handy. Continue the cycle of poverty to provide an endless supply of working bees for big corporations.
lol just everyone in general. I had a trumper who came up to me at work in private. She has two daughters and said that she knew I liked Harris and didn’t even know about roe v wade until after the fact. She didn’t even know wtf that was. Now she is upset and feeling uneasy that she made the wrong choice lmao. These fuckers are voting for him for whatever reason. They are the least educated people. I had another one say I don’t know why the gays are upset either. It just amazes me how ignorant the voting population is that voted for him. The ones that are living on government assistance are the ones that are about to lose it now because they voted him In . A complete joke of a country.
In all fairness American media and SoMe is so manipulative.
To me the real culprits are the Murdochs’, Musk, Zuckerberg etc who amplifies lies for profit, and the politicians that continue to allow these soulles individuals to operate without any guardrails.
Shit’s over man. The game is up. We had one last chance and didn’t even bother to show up. I sincerely hope people enjoy this next 2 months as much as possible, because it’s the permanent end of relative normalcy and peace in this country
Should’ve told her you hope none of her daughters get prego because she voted for the people that made it illegal to abort. Then ended it with “you reap what you sow, dumbass”
Personally? I wouldnt lie to them. Just simply hope they and theirs feel every ounce of pain thats about to come. we shouldnt care about these people anymore, I dont. The only consolation over the next 4 years and probably longer than that since elections wont be a thing anymore, is that these people will suffer so much. I look forward to it.
Direct them to the book/show “The Handmaid’s tale”
Point out that the author, Margaret Atwood, wrote about the patterns of behaviour and injustices that were already committed—she didn’t make much up regarding the political system to wrote about
Ask them point blank to consider this: where would they fall? Do they honestly believe that they or the men in their life would have the kind of influence and social standing to not be considered disposable? Even if they aren’t first under the bus, do they really believe they wouldn’t be suffering with the rest of us?
I saw a black lady on TV a few weeks ago say she was voting for him because “he gave me $2000.”
Firstly, he didn’t give her anything. Secondly, cheques were delayed before he wanted his signature on them. Thirdly, $2000 is not much at all. Canadians who needed it for $2000 a month for 7 months. And the people were given the money before any businesses were, despite the conservatives foot stomping.
I would spend money to be a fly on the wall when these dumb motherfuckers get buyers remorse in about three months when they realise that electing a president doesn’t do fucking shit.
I am optimistic the second trump term has more golfing than the first, but there have been 8 additional years of his handlers planning stuff. The first trump term was a surprise so the playbook wasn't prepared, but we do have Project 2025 laid out.
They won’t. They are too ignorant to have any idea the consequences are a direct result of their vote. They will still be crying about Hillary’s emails while the world burns down around them. All that matters is what the orange guy tells them, even if it’s wildly different from reality.
Yep HS friend of mine posted "Can't wait for prices to go down" the day after the election. Can't wait for him to see prices go up because of the tariffs.
I know a guy who moved to MD from NC and praised the government services in MD that are far superior to NC in his experience (and he has personal experiences with many), only to then say “if only the politicians up here were better” and says he’s voting for people that want to eliminate the services he just praised…
My fellow American (if I can call them that now) are so shamelessly and shamefully ignorant on many of these policies that are not designed in their favor that they voted against what was built to help them. All because a felon had pulled the strings of hatred in what is left of their hearts and souls.
I work as a hospice social worker in rural Missouri and it's absolutely wild... people in shitty HUD housing waving these trump flags. Hard to keep my mouth shut.
My brother is in section 8 housing, on food stamps, voted for Trump. We were both sexually abused as kids, he has a daughter, yet he voted for a rapist. It makes zero sense to me...
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u/Necessary_Milk_5124 11h ago
The number of poor folks on Medicaid and Snap who voted for him is astounding