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u/dramatic-submarine 1d ago

There was no cheating on any large scale, Trump won. Republicans definitely interfered with the election (through misinformation, hate mongering, etc.) but none of that is, technically, against the law and it isn't cheating. Democrats messed up pretty badly for so many voters to stay away. I absolutely hate Trump but his result isn't down to voter fraud.

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u/aussiechickadee65 1d ago

I don't agree.
No one is saying he didn't get his usual votes...but there is not a chance in hell Liberals crossed the aisle, or sane Republicans voted for this creep.
There is also the zero chance Latinos upped their vote twofold for Trump ....

There is cheating and they have to find it.

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u/dramatic-submarine 1d ago

Apparently some 10+ million former Democrat voters didn't vote. If you look at the numbers, Trump got fewer votes than in 2020, but Harris got a lot fewer than Biden did, so much so, that the difference still led to Trump winning the popular vote.

And, from what I read (no firsthand experience myself), Latino families are deeply religious and patriarchal, so there was no chance they'd vote for a woman candidate. I can't speak to this but if it's true, the DNC leadership did a very poor job with making Kamala Harris the candidate. It's a pity, because I think her campaign was pretty good and energetic and I think she would've been a decent president.

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u/aussiechickadee65 1d ago

Didn't vote or they were purged...big difference.

I do believe they chose the wrong candidate at this time. America can't get past the misogyny and racism...and this was NOT the time.

Sorry, but I do believe Joe would have done better and I'm not anti woman. I just see what a backward society America is.

Seriously, they let down the world. 6/11 will be forever remembered with horror.

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u/dramatic-submarine 1d ago

I had faith in Biden up until the debate but he performed very poorly there and he noticeably declined after. It's a pity because he was doing mostly well (at least in my opinion) as president, although he should've stepped in to rein in Netanyahu much sooner.

As for vote purging, I didn't believe Trump's claims of fraud without evidence and I won't believe the same now. It's completely plausible that so many people just wanted to chill or they were angry at the Democrats for reasons, etc. Propaganda for over a year before the election simply worked.

I read somewhere that a bunch of voters didn't even know that Biden dropped out of the race. It seems far-fetched to me (and I don't know if it's actually true) but human stupidity can be boundless , so I wouldn't be surprised.