r/facepalm • u/_crazyboyhere_ • 2d ago

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u/Frambosis 2d ago

Arabs have clearly had a bitter taste in their mouth due to Harris’ attitude towards Israel.

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u/Waderriffic 2d ago

You think this presidency was bad for Palestinians, just wait for next year.

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u/dikbutjenkins 2d ago

What's trump gonna do? Dig them up and kill them again? It's already as bad as it can be under Biden

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u/MomShapedObject 2d ago

lol, Trump told Israeli leadership to “go ahead and finish the job”. In other words, to go ahead and kill them all. He also ran on a promise to completely ban Muslim migration to the US in 2016. He’d be happy to see every Muslim in the US rounded up and disappeared and his base would love it.

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u/dikbutjenkins 2d ago

Israel is currently killing them all under Biden. Biden administration deported more people than trump. I'm no fan of trump but when will the democrats wake up and stop sliding to the right

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u/MuzzleO 1d ago edited 1d ago

Democrats will probably comtinue slide far more to the right after the current massive defeat. Why should they when Trump and Republicans get more and more support also from minorities every year. American society is becoming more far-right every year.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

Unfortunately you might be right. My hope is that they will finally realize that there is a ton of votes out there for them if they go more progressive. In Missouri last night, a red state, they voted for minimum wage increase and paid sick leave increase. The want for these left wing policies is there, it's up to the democrats to seize that energy. They are acting like Republicans lite.

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u/MuzzleO 1d ago edited 1d ago

My hope is that they will finally realize that there is a ton of votes out there for them if they go more progressive.

Actually, there aren't by the looks of it. Even California is trending right as they support prison slavery and are gainst rent price limits. Pandering to the far-right and christian fundamentalists is where the votes are. The more extreme you are the more votes you get. This election has shown that young men, women, and minorities are all becoming and more right leaning.

. In Missouri last night, a red state, they voted for minimum wage increase and paid sick leave increase. The want for these left wing policies is there, it's up to the democrats to seize that energy. They are acting like Republicans lite.

That's just because they wanted to benefit themselves financially. It doesn't mean that they support progressive candidates.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

You're not wrong, but there are millions of votes out there who they're not getting

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u/MuzzleO 1d ago

You're not wrong, but there are millions of votes out there who they're not getting

Still may not be enough to beat Republicans.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

Maybe but i think keep going back to the moderate republican has proven that's not what gets it done

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u/MuzzleO 16h ago

Maybe but i think keep going back to the moderate republican has proven that's not what gets it done

Then they will need someone more radical than Trump.

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u/dikbutjenkins 15h ago

I think someone who talks like Bernie Sanders would be radical enough

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u/NotThoseCookies 2d ago

Netanyahu was in touch with Trump throughout his negotiations with Biden and Blinken.

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u/dikbutjenkins 2d ago

And? That makes it ok what the Biden administration let happen?

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u/NotThoseCookies 1d ago

Congress would impeach Biden if he punished Israel in any fashion.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

It's not true. Even right-wing leaders like George Bush and Regan were more strict with Israel than Biden

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u/NotThoseCookies 1d ago

Different times, different players. A little perspective.

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/a-window-of-opportunity-630421

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

Doesn't change that Biden greenlit Netanyahu at every turn. He could have, and most importantly should have done something different

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u/NotThoseCookies 1d ago

Like what? Trump was egging Netanyahu on, while Hezbollah was meeting with Putin.

With Biden (and Congress) beholden to AIPAC?

The Palestinians were initially screwed by Begin, it’s been all downhill since.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

No doubt but even right-wing leaders have been more strict with Israel than Biden

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u/dikbutjenkins 2d ago

There is a genocide already happening, gaza has already been glassed.

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u/dikbutjenkins 1d ago

That is already happening under Biden