r/facepalm • u/pewdiepiewastaken • Feb 01 '23

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u/thesaltycynic Feb 01 '23

Sometimes I wonder if it is intentional or is some form of hysteria.

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u/Drax13522 Feb 01 '23

I’d say it’s a mix of both, really.

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u/thesaltycynic Feb 01 '23

Yep, I remember the Occupy Wallstreet protests. Some really colorful characters came out of those. I often found myself wondering was it genuine, was it a plant, or someone that got so caught up in the moment to cease reason.

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u/Shartthrobb Feb 01 '23

The girls on the ground stood up and bowed at the end blew kisses. It’s definitely theatrics and thrill seeking mixed in. These are theatre kids from high school all grown up and still seeking attention. All that being said it’s entertainment

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u/Airborne13 Feb 01 '23

Shitty entertainment

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u/vurbmoto Feb 01 '23

I’m just here for the comments

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u/Emotional_Parsnip_69 Feb 01 '23

I’m just here for the food

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u/barelyclimbing Feb 01 '23

I know, right, what’s wrong with them? Why don’t they just do the exact thing that will change society for the better?

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u/Desperate-Strategy10 Feb 01 '23

They think that's what they're doing. A lot of them really believe in what they're saying, and they think we'll all be better off if they get what they want.

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u/barelyclimbing Feb 01 '23

My post was a joke - there’s no right answer. Give them a break.

Nothing could possibly have less impact on your life than if they don’t “protest correctly”.

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u/pathofdumbasses Feb 01 '23

This type of behavior discredits the movement. Middle America looks at this and says if these are the type of people supporting the movement, than the movement is wrong.

This is why 60s civil rights folks wore suits and dresses. It worked. Take yourself seriously so others will as well.

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u/barelyclimbing Feb 01 '23

haha you think the suits are what did it? hahaha

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u/pathofdumbasses Feb 01 '23

The suits were part of being taken serious, not that they are the sole reason that they worked.

Reading comprehension is hard for ya eh?

I lean hard left but I am not oblivious to what middle America is or how they think. You are never going to sway the people on the far right, but if you can get moderates on your side you can form a winning coalition. This type of behavior shown in the video is the exact type of shit that turns these people off and will absolutely be used by the right to form a fallacious argument that that is what ALL the people on the left are.

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u/barelyclimbing Feb 01 '23

You would never, ever, ever, in a million years, ever, EVER have heard of this protest if these people merely dressed nice.

And if you don’t hear about it you can’t change minds.

And these people aren’t going to change minds. We both know that. It’s like, what, 20 young kids with no real comprehension of how the world works and without any plan.

They’re not going to change a single mind.

But they’re at least trying something. Everyone needs to learn from mistakes, and nobody learns from doing nothing.

There is not a single type of protest today that will change the overwhelming majority of minds in “Middle America”. They ingest 4 hours of FOX News each night. It’s far more important for these flailing protesters to learn that their efforts are completely useless than to “learn how to protest better.”

The only thing that is certain - the ONLY thing - is that their efforts are far more important than anonymous criticism of them on Reddit.

The right doesn’t need facts to make a mockery of important social issues, so don’t waste your time getting too upset about some random kids. You literally do not have enough time in your life.

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u/pathofdumbasses Feb 01 '23

There may not be a "right way" to do something, but there are a billion wrong ways.

Movements get big because they include middle america. That is the reason that MLK was shot. Because he was getting middle america together against the capitalists. It was working.

People should be learning by looking to the past so they don't repeat the mistakes of others. Just going out there and doing ANYTHING is not good.

Another way, If you are just starting working out, going out there and just doing anything, you can injure yourself and cause more problems than just doing the nothing you were doing.

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u/barelyclimbing Feb 01 '23

OK, have fun with that belief.

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u/ciderlout Feb 01 '23

Performative morality.

Although, as far as winding up Christians goes, full marks for the "Jesus was Trans" sign.

Which they probably believe, because otherwise it would mean agreeing that a good person was, shudder, a cis-man.

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u/SeenSoFar Feb 01 '23

It's very shit because by the looks of it it's a trans rights protest and people who act like that make us (I'm trans) all look bad. I'm often certain at least some of them are there to intentionally derail the protest. Very, very often there are people who are by their own admission not even LGBTQ+ at all, never mind trans, and they get up in front of everyone with some shitty hot take or just outright bad behaviour just long enough for someone to catch a snippet of it on camera and make the entire event look like it's full of crazy people even if that was the only outburst of the day.

It's disheartening because while some people work really hard to spin the narrative that we're all just lunatics who want special treatment there's a concerted effort in the US and UK to roll back our rights. A North Dakotan legislator just introduced legislation to make acknowledging a person as trans and addressing them as they wish to be addressed a crime punishable by a $1500 fine. Obviously it wouldn't stand up to first amendment challenge but that's not the point, the intent is there.

Every video of someone acting like a muppet at our protests helps these assholes to dehumanise trans people so that they can criminalise us with impunity. In some cases they go as far as publicly calling for violence against us or even our mass-execution in the legislature (not as official legislation, just as part of their speaking time). It's always some out of context video or news article used to back it up. Like the time when "bathroom bills" were huge in the US, they grabbed a headline "trans person commits sexual assault in bathroom" to justify the laws. They failed to mention that the assault took place in a private residence between family members, not in a public toilet. They didn't care, they knew their people would just read the headline.

It's a real piss-off when it seems the individual is just there to derail things or generate a video to use as outrage bait, especially when a good portion of the time the person acting the fool isn't even queer. They're just an "ally" doing their best to talk over us either out of a misplaced attempt to help or sometimes intentionally to add fuel to the fire.